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From: Arthur Barstow <Art.Barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:05:33 -0400
Message-Id: <430D2479-6F19-45B5-967F-93784EC0A8DD@nokia.com>
Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
To: Addison Phillips <addison@amazon.com>, Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>, Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>, "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Hi Marcos, All,

Has the I18N Core WG reviewed Marcos' latest proposal? If yes, where  
can we find their comments; if no, when can we expect a reply?

-Art Barstow

On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:

>
>
> On 29/03/10 5:16 PM, Phillips, Addison wrote:
>> This doesn't make any sense to me. I think you are over-thinking  
>> this.
>>
>> The author element contains the author's *NAME*. It can also  
>> include an href and an email attribute. UTR#36 refers explicitly  
>> to IRIs and IDNA addresses, which would be the values of these  
>> attributes. However, it does NOT refer to plain text (the body of  
>> the element 'author') which is what the 'dir' attribute really  
>> applies to. To not provide bidirectional overrides for the  
>> author's name strikes me as incredibly short sighted, given that  
>> you can override any higher-level element. To have one place in  
>> your configuration document that requires controls is not to  
>> improve security, it is to reduce usability.
>
> I've updated the spec and the RelaxNG to include "rlo" and "lro".
>
>> It would make far more sense for you to cite UTR#36 with regard to  
>> an implementations presentation of the href or email attributes,  
>> suggesting (or forbidding) the application of the dir attribute to  
>> these values. But the body of the<author>  element needs the bidi  
>> markup and should not depend on Unicode bidi controls.
>
> I trashed the old note, made this new note.
>
> [[
> Note: Implementations intending to display IRIs and IDNA addresses  
> found
> in the configuration document are strongly encouraged to follow the
> security advice given in [UTR36]. This could include, for example,
> behaving as if the dir attribute had no effect on any IRI attributes,
> path attributes, and the author element's email attribute.
> ]]
>
> IRI attributes, path attributes are defined in the specification.
>
> Any better?
>
> Kind regards,
> Marcos
>
>
> -- 
> Marcos Caceres
> Opera Software
Received on Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:06:47 GMT

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