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Re: View modes: more precision on fullscreen

From: Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:35:52 +0100
Cc: public-webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1F3BED35-5311-4619-81B3-1F9564A39CBF@berjon.com>
To: marcosc@opera.com
On Nov 9, 2009, at 13:05 , Marcos Caceres wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 18:06 , Marcos Caceres wrote:
>>> 2009/10/5 Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>:
>>>> it seems to me that there's a missing distinction in our list of  
>>>> view
>>>> modes: the difference between maximised and fullscreen (or perhaps
>>>> fullscreen and all-screen).
>>>> Maximised is the case in which the application takes up the entire
>>>> available screen space minus a little bit of chrome either for  
>>>> itself (a
>>>> window bar with a title and perhaps some buttons) or for the  
>>>> system (task
>>>> bar, menu clock, etc.); whereas fullscreen is when the viewport  
>>>> is the same
>>>> size as the screen (e.g. for video playback).
>>>> Both desktops and phones tend to have this distinction in one way  
>>>> or
>>>> another, so it sounds to me as something that we should expose as  
>>>> well.
>>> I think application mode already covers this if the application is
>>> maximized as you defined it.
>> If application is maximised, then what is the keyword that  
>> describes a
>> window that has chrome but isn't occupying the entirety of the  
>> space that
>> windows can?
> That would be 'application', but not maximized.

Uh, but those can be two different windowing modes, with the chrome  
subtly different and different behaviour (e.g. the window can't be  
dragged if maximised).

Or are you thinking about this in terms of the broken OSX UI that  
can't tell the difference? If so, I strongly object  it's a usability  

Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/
Received on Monday, 9 November 2009 15:36:27 UTC

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