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Re: [XHR] Dependencies in XHR

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:42:56 -0400
Message-ID: <483C9C80.2070306@w3.org>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: Web API public <public-webapi@w3.org>

Hi, Anne-

Anne van Kesteren wrote (on 5/27/08 7:17 PM):
> 
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 00:58:45 +0200, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>>>  Vendors have actually requested this. The problem is summarized here:
>>>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008May/0249.html
>>
>> Well... that's not quite a normative reference. :)
> 
> It was not a reference for that claim, it was a reference for the issue 
> we have. It seems you're suggesting you rather leave it underdefined?

No, I want it defined somewhere that there isn't a long wait on a 
dependency chain.  I assume you're not claiming that vendors have asked 
for the opposite... but I'd be entertained by a link to that reference. :)

Seriously, I'm not sure what your point was here... I explained that 
commercial browser vendors prefer stable, mature specs, without 
unresolved dependencies... could you clarify why that isn't a concern?



>>>> We have discussed adding consideration for "event handler DOM 
>>>> attribute" in the DOM3 Events spec, such that a host language can 
>>>> define what that means in its context
>>>
>>>  Again, HTML5 currently has a better definition.
>>
>> Okay, I'll work on that.
> 
> Great, though note that we reference DOM Level 2 Events currently as 
> that is more stable and does everything XMLHttpRequest requires. 
> Referencing DOM Level 3 Events instead would actually increase the 
> number of instable dependencies.

Yes, let's reevaluate that in light of progress on DOM3 Events shortly.


>> Sure.  Is there some reason this can't be made generic and left to the 
>> host language to define?
> 
> I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

I'm asking for an explanation about the nature of the dependency, vis a 
vis the necessary level of details in XHR.


> Note that we also rely on HTML5 for document.innerHTML to define proper 
> serialization of a Document object.

Noted.  Any proposal on how that can be resolved?

Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG, CDF, and WebAPI
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