Re: General objection regarding Web NFC

On 2015-04-14 15:48, Adrian Hope-Bailie wrote:
> Hi Anders,

Hi Adrian,

> How is this any different to the Geolocation API which is widely used and has been for many years?
> http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/

I guess Geolocation is an API for accessing "MyLocation" as given by the platform the browser is running on, right?

NFC is about a connection between two different devices.


> I agree with your assertion that there is a need for a generic
 > native-Web bridge but that shouldn't prevent specialised API's
 > for access to device hardware from being developed should it?

Of course not but since such schemes have entirely different issues they should be separated,
otherwise the deliverable will be unnecessary hard to digest.

Anyway, going back specifically to NFC, I don't see any valid use-case for Web-page access
in a *connecting device* except for devices which are based on Web technology like Firefox OS.

It is quite possible that I'm missing something here, so please don't let me ruin the party!
I only wanted the "crowd" to be the biggest possible and IMO that means an *agnostic client*
like already is the case for every existing NFC application I have heard about.


> I would encourage this group to work closely with the Web Payments IG, specifically with
 > regards to the payments use cases they are dealing with.

Agreed.  A complication is that the Web Payment IG haven't yet started with the Payment Agent API
and have no stated opinion about the architecture.

Anders

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> Adrian
>
> On 14 April 2015 at 04:41, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     When I read issues like https://github.com/w3c/web-__nfc/issues/16 <https://github.com/w3c/web-nfc/issues/16>
>     I get the impression that you expect connecting clients to use Web-technology.
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>     IMO, this assumption will severely limit the value of Web NFC.
>     The only "standard" that's really lacking, is a way for untrusted Web-pages to interact with connecting client devices.
>     http://ipt.intel.com/Home/How-__it-works/network-security-__identity-management/ipt-with-__near-field-communications <http://ipt.intel.com/Home/How-it-works/network-security-identity-management/ipt-with-near-field-communications>
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>     How Web-based OSes expose NFC to the outer world should IMO be left to another forum to cater for including
>     security considerations.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Anders
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Received on Tuesday, 14 April 2015 14:19:02 UTC