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Re: [profile] Profile spec title

From: Vickers, Mark <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:10:10 +0000
To: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
CC: Jan Lindquist <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Message-ID: <BC5FE39B-B8B3-487F-9660-32DF9310AB31@cable.comcast.com>
"Web and TV" is very unclear in meaning. We constantly have to explain that the Web and TV IG is not limited to TV devices. We shouldn't extend this confusion to the profile spec. I believe the profile is defining client requirements for displaying video services and so "Video Services" should be in the title.


On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:

> Would one of the following title+subtitle address both needs?:
> 
> "Web and TV profile"
> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based environment
> 
> "Web and TV guidelines"
> A profile of HTML5 and other web technologies for interactive video services
> 
> /g
> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:58:23 +0100, Jan Lindquist <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> The profile is not only about HTML5 but other W3c standards so it would be misleading to have HTML5 in the title. In the spirit of the IG how about "web and TV profile". The name of the profile is not as critical as knowing the breadth of the areas it should cover. This profile may live for a while and it in the context of the industry attempt to influence the work in W3C with a clear list of specs that are being used and how they may be used. It will become a reference point by other standard groups. By using the same name as the IG it can help see the relationship.
>> Regards,
>> JanL
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vickers, Mark [mailto:Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com]
>>> Sent: den 7 februari 2012 15:24
>>> To: Giuseppe Pascale
>>> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG
>>> Subject: Re: [profile] Profile spec title
>>> 
>>> How about "HTML5 Video Services Profile"?
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:26:40 +0100, Vickers, Mark
>>> <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> 5. Title: The goal for me is a profile of HTML5 for video
>>> services. There are two differences with "Web&TV Profile".
>>> >> - I want to include HTML5 in the title because this is
>>> HTML5-related
>>> >> and HTM5-centric
>>> >> - I don't like including "TV". This continues to cause
>>> confusion. It is clearer to describe an HTML5 profile for
>>> video services.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I don't have strong opinions on the title but I would note
>>> the following:
>>> > - A title should be short ( the subtitle explains a bit
>>> more what we are doing).
>>> > - I've tried to use the word "TV services" in the subtitle that is
>>> > hopefully a bit less confusing (or maybe not?). I have defined this
>>> > term as
>>> >
>>> > "For the purposes of this document a TV service is a
>>> commercial video service that may include elements of
>>> interactivity and that provides a coherent user experience.
>>> >
>>> > - while this profile is html5 based this is not only about
>>> html5. I'm not against highlighting the HTML5 centric
>>> approach but I wouldn't call this "an html5 profile".
>>> >
>>> > So in short: I'm fine with your comments but I cannot come
>>> up with a better title/subtitle. Suggestions are welcome.
>>> >
>>> > /g
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> See you on the call.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> mav
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> One note: the zakim bridge is overbooked.
>>> >>> So just in case we see that people have problem dialing
>>> in (in such
>>> >>> case please login on IRC and let us know) I set-up this
>>> Opera bridge.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> NOTE: ONLY TO BE USED IF WE SEE THAT ZAKIM DOESN'T WORK
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Phone bridge details:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Conference ID:            33909
>>> >>> Start Date and Time:      Monday 06.02.2012 17:00:00 CET/CEST
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bridge Numbers:
>>> >>> Norway                           +47 23 69 26 03
>>> >>> USA                                +1 800 201 4229 (Toll-Free)
>>> >>> Poland (Wroclaw)	        +48 71 719 6099
>>> >>> Poland (Warsaw)         	+48 22 262 0799
>>> >>> Japan                             +81 3 5435 8394
>>> >>> Russia				  +7 812 448 7876
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Conference Name:          tv profile
>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >>> Please contact SysAdmin at +47 23 69 33 60 for assistance.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> /g
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:15 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Here the call details for todays call
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Telco)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Schedule: Monday, 16:00Z (=8:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 17:00
>>> >>>> Europe, 01:00 Korea/Japan)
>>> >>>> Phone: US: +1 617 761 6200 or SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org Conference
>>> >>>> Code: 26632 IRC channel: #webtv
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> And here the Agenda for todays call:
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Agenda_Telco_6/2/2012)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> * Review of Charter
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Charter)
>>> >>>> * Call schedule
>>> >>>> * TF tools (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile)
>>> >>>> * Process
>>> >>>> * Initial feedbacks on the draft
>>> >>>> (http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html)
>>> >>>> * AOB
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> /g
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>> the poll [1] is now closed and the winner is...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Monday, February 6, 2012 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM UTC
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> In this first call we will discuss the scope of the TV
>>> profile work, how do we want the group to be organized and
>>> timeline (if any).
>>> >>>>> If you have any other topic you want to add to the
>>> agenda let me know.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'll send around call details ASAP.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [1] http://doodle.com/h6rfnkrqyi3uinpi
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>> >>> TV & Connected Devices
>>> >>> Opera Software
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Giuseppe Pascale
>>> > TV & Connected Devices
>>> > Opera Software
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Giuseppe Pascale
> TV & Connected Devices
> Opera Software
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