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[HOME_NETWORK_TF] Minutes - 12 July 2011

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:22:48 +0900
Message-ID: <4E1C82E8.5010209@w3.org>
To: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
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http://www.w3.org/2011/07/12-webtv-minutes.html

also as text below.

BTW, I think we need to finalize ISSUE-24 as well, though I said our
topics for the next week would be Russel's issues and Matt's issues.
Sorry I was unclear.

Giuseppe will come back and moderate the call (as I mentioned at the
end of the call :)

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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                    Home Networking TF Teleconference

12 Jul 2011

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2011Jul/0023.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

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Attendees

    Present
           Kazuyuki, MattH, Aizu, Tatsuya_Igarashi, david_mays,
           Jerry_Ezrol, Jean-Claude, Jan

    Regrets
    Chair
           Kaz

    Scribe
           kaz

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]How to handle additional use case descriptions?
          2. [6]Use cases
      * [7]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

How to handle additional use case descriptions?

    kaz: two proposals: 1. API category, 2. concrete system interaction
    description
    ... let's talk about "API category"
    ... could this an optional feature?

    igarashi: it would be useful to have this feature when we identify
    use cases for requirement document

    kaz: old use cases are already approved

    igarashi: I'd suggest we ask old use case submitters as well to
    clarify the type

    kaz: in that case, we need to clarify the definition of
    service-agnostic and service-specific

    <jcdufourd> ack

    kaz: I think service-agnostic is "generic" and service-specific is
    "application-specific" we discussed before

    jc: agree
    ... but not sure about the third type

    igarashi: type3 is combination of type1 and type2
    ... in addition to generic APIs and application-specific documents
    (like application-specific XML language)
    ... e.g., generic XMLHTTPRequest and additional application-specific
    XML language

    <MattH> +q

    <MattH> +q

    kaz: does type3 include DeviceAPI and HTML5 script?

    igarashi: no
    ... e.g., the URI of the "application-specific" document is one of
    the parameters of the generic API

    MattH: quick question
    ... do any of existing use cases match this type 3?

    igarashi: no idea
    ... it's that there are theoretically three options

    MattH: ok

    <MattH> -q

    igarashi: however, I think this kind of "type of use cases" should
    be considered for the discussion in the possible WGs

    RESOLUTION: we add Igarashi's proposed "type of use cases" to our
    use case description (and template)

    kaz: next Russell's proposal

    ->
    [8]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2011Jul/002
    3.html agenda

       [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2011Jul/0023.html

    kaz: how about discussing th concrete system interaction later?

    <igarashi_> I will resume soon.

    <rberkoff> what ever is decided should be applied uniformly to use
    cases or not at all

    <rberkoff> then we shouldnt require it!

    <rberkoff> no!

    RESOLUTION: We should not require detaliked system interaction
    description for use cases description

    MattH: is considering system interaction important in order to
    express desired attributes of solutions?

    berkoff: no. It is desired in order to detect issues with proposed
    use cases.

Use cases

    issue-24?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-24 -- Local Link of web applications -- raised

    <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/24

       [9] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/24

    ->
    [10]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussio
    ns/LocalLink#Use_Case:_Local_Link_of_Web_Applications Wiki
    description

      [10] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussions/LocalLink#Use_Case:_Local_Link_of_Web_Applications

    igarashi: have some issue with separating user scenarios
    ... though Francois suggested I should have separated it
    ... also he pointed out to clarify the relationship with the other
    use cases
    ... issue-24 describes bi-directional communication

    kaz: do you think it's impossible?

    igarashi: no, but User Scenario is not the main body of the Use Case
    but just example

    <MattH> +q

    kaz: maybe we should clarify the definition of "User Scenario"

    igarashi: if those User Scenarios are three application-specific
    examples, I'm happy to separate them
    ... but there is no significant difference
    ... there is only one system interaction

    ack Matt?

    MattH: think we've clarified "User Scenario" and "Use Case"

    kaz: we should follow the definition

    (kaz will check the definition to make sure.)

    RESOLUTION: three examples could be included in ISSUE-24

    kaz: next week we'll talk about:
    - Russell Berkoff's use case: ISSUE-17 (split into ISSUE-23,
    ISSUE-26, ISSUE-27, ISSUE-28, ISSUE-29, ISSUE-30)
    - Matt Hammond: ISSUE-19, ISSUE-20, ISSUE-21, ISSUE-22

    kaz: sorry, but we need to finalize ISSUE-24 as well

    kaz: Giuseppe will come back and moderate the call

    [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

    [End of minutes]
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