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Re: RE: WCAG-EM testing proposal

From: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:19:29 +0100 (CET)
To: evelleman@bartimeus.nl,public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
Message-Id: <20130318101930.005C8682128C@dd24924.kasserver.com>
An option for testing may be 

www.land-der-ideen.de/ 

a website for promoting Germany as the hot place to be. Personally, I dislike national marketing campaigns but the site has made an effort to be accessible and has some pretty invilvesd stuff going on with a google map 

http://www.land-der-ideen.de/365-orte/preistraeger/map

and overlays on top of it, and a myriald of filtering options (so this is a good on to see if one would let this pass in terms of 3.2.3 Consistent Navigation, 2.4.1 Bypass Blocks and so on....

Detlev


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----- Original Message -----
From: evelleman@bartimeus.nl
To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
Date: 17.03.2013 19:20:00
Subject: RE: WCAG-EM testing proposal


> Hi Detlev, all,
> 
> Also seems to me that doing step 1 - 3 is probably less time consuming. So let us start there. This means:
> 
> 1. We need volunteers for this. Please indicate on the mailing list if you can help.
> 2. Please send me more proposals for potential websites (traditional website and/or web application). 
> 
> We could do this offline so the website is not named on the mailing list. Would be great if we could have at least six volunteers to do two different websites. 
> Kindest regards,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> Van: Detlev Fischer [detlev.fischer@testkreis.de]
> Verzonden: zaterdag 16 maart 2013 10:41
> Aan: v.conway@ecu.edu.au; Velleman, Eric; public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
> Onderwerp: Re: WCAG-EM testing proposal
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I guess what really can be tested is step 1-3 to see if after following these steps we will come up with vert different samplings and if we do, analyse why thst happened. Acrually going through the success criteria in step 4 will just reveal the differences we will have in assessing content, letting minor issues pass (or not) as the case nay be, guided (or not) by the application of WCAG techniques. There is nothing in the methodology that would recommend any rating approach over any other.
> 
> Testing step 1-3 does not seem very timeconsuming so I am happy to join the test team.
> 
> Regards,
> Detlev
> 
> --
> Detlev Fischer
> testkreis c/o feld.wald.wiese
> Thedestr. 2, 22767 Hamburg
> 
> Mobil +49 (0)1577 170 73 84
> Tel +49 (0)40 439 10 68-3
> Fax +49 (0)40 439 10 68-5
> 
> http://www.testkreis.de
> Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: v.conway@ecu.edu.au
> To: evelleman@bartimeus.nl, public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
> Date: 16.03.2013 06:35:32
> Subject: WCAG-EM testing proposal
> 
> 
>> Hi Eric
>> 
>> This is looking good, but certainly seems like a lot of work for individual volunteers who would all be assessing the same pages.  While it will give a great data set, to evaluate a website usually takes considerable time and this would also depend upon the sample size.  Would it be better to split up the sample after it is chosen in step 3 and all evaluate a portion?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons), MACS CT, AALIA(cs)
>> PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A.
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>> From: Velleman, Eric [evelleman@bartimeus.nl]
>> Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2013 8:36 PM
>> To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
>> Subject: EvalTF No telco but list discussion
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Please let me hear what you think of the proposal to form teams and test-drive WCAG-EM?
>> Mail with proposal is at:
>> 
>> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2013Mar/0009.html>
>> 
>> Kindest regards,
>> 
>> Eric
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