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Re: server-side scripts - was: mockups for TF Web interface

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:30:17 +0100
Message-ID: <4991F1E9.8060801@w3.org>
To: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
CC: public-wai-ert-tsdtf@w3.org

Thank you, this is really helpful!


Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> 
> 
> Rather than sending even more mails, I collected all relevant links on a 
> page in our Wiki:
> <http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/ToolsForWebInterface>.
> This page contains link regarding support for XML Schema, XSLT and ISO 
> Schematron in PHP, Python and Perl.
> 
> Feel free to add more links, especially in the automation section (using 
> CVS to trigger Python or Perl scripts).
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Christophe
> 
> At 15:37 10/02/2009, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> 
> 
>> At 14:27 10/02/2009, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
>>> Hi Shadi,
>>>
>>> At 23:35 5/02/2009, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>>>> Christophe Strobbe wrote:
>>>>> At 16:24 2/02/2009, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>>>>>> Ref: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find muckups of the TF Web interface tool. There is not 
>>>>>> database backing yet, so no functions actually work. However, you 
>>>>>> should be able to click around and get a good idea of how it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: you may notice some new status flags, we need to discuss this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know your thoughts and comments, I'm aware that it is a 
>>>>>> pretty minimalistic tool (no real search, e-mail notification, 
>>>>>> reminders, ...).
>>>>> One of the goals of this interface is to make the structure and 
>>>>> content reviews easier, especially the automatable parts of the 
>>>>> structure review: XML Schema validation and ISO Schematron 
>>>>> checking. If you have suggestions on how the interface could 
>>>>> support this, please send them to the list.
>>>>
>>>> The current idea is to run CVS-triggered scripts when test samples 
>>>> are checked into the repository. These scripts would update the 
>>>> database by entering a new record or modifying an existing one. My 
>>>> hope is that we can build the XML/Schematron validation into these 
>>>> scripts (and record the output of the scripts into the database too).
>>>>
>>>> Christophe, do you have such command line scripts? If so, what 
>>>> language and/or environment do they require to run?
>>>
>>> My current scripts are all in Apache Ant <http://ant.apache.org/>, 
>>> which requires Java.
>>> However, there are a number of alternatives for Python: 
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_build_automation_software>. (I 
>>> have no experience with Python, nor with any of those Python-based 
>>> tools.)
>>>
>>> I've never looked into scripts that are automaticlly triggered by CVS 
>>> checkins. I found something at
>>> <http://tldp.org/REF/CVS-BestPractices/html/section1-serverconfig.html#section2-scripting> 
>>> but we probably need to find out how to trigger Python or PHP scripts.
>>>
>>> I looked into ISO Schematron support some time ago and didn't find 
>>> anything for PHP.
>>> However, there is also the Python-based Amara XML Toolkit:
>>>
>>> * Uche Ogbuji: "Introducing the Amara XML Toolkit"
>>>   <http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/01/19/amara.html>
>>> * Amara XML Toolkit:
>>>   <http://uche.ogbuji.net:8080/uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4Suite/amara/>,
>>> * Amara XML Toolkit manual:
>>>
>>> <http://uche.ogbuji.net:8080/uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4Suite/amara/manual.html> 
>>>
>>
>> 1. I should have added a link to what I collected at the bottom of
>> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Sep/0011.html>. 
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. I hadn't thought of looking into Perl support.
>>
>> The Perl module xml::schematron predates ISO Schematron and only seems 
>> to support earlier versions (Schematron 1.5?). This is the only Perl 
>> implementation listed at
>> <http://www.schematron.com/links.html>.
>> Of course, it is possible to use the XSLT implementation I described at
>> <http://www.bentoweb.org/refs/TCDL2.0/tsdtf_schematron.html> but with 
>> a Perl module instead of Java. I found Perl modules for XSLT at
>> * <http://search.cpan.org/~jstowe/XML-XSLT-0.48/lib/XML/XSLT.pm> and
>> * <http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/PApp-1.43/PApp/XSLT/LibXSLT.pm> (a 
>> wrapper for an XSLT implementation).
>> If W3C is already using Apache AxKit <http://www.axkit.org/>,
>>
>> 3. Regarding XSLT implementations: I also found tutorials for using 
>> Sablotron in PHP:
>> * 
>> <http://devzone.zend.com/article/1087-Using-Sablotron-to-process-XSLT> 
>> (2003),
>> * 
>> <http://sniptools.com/vault/sablotron-xslt-php-apache-on-windows-and-a-basic-xslt-tutorial>. 
>>
>> Sablotron also has a Perl API (see 
>> <http://www.xmlhack.com/read.php?item=482>). However, Sablotron itself 
>> is in C++.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Christophe
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>   Shadi
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
>>>>   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
>>>>  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Christophe Strobbe
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Christophe Strobbe
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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