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Re: BAD preview for accessibility testing

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:34:56 +0200
Message-ID: <4A8D5100.60106@w3.org>
To: Votis Konstantinos <kvotis@iti.gr>
CC: BAD TF <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>
Hi Kostas,

Apologies for the name mismatch - you've never corrected me in all those 
years, and I never paid enough attention to your signature. Sorry!

Anyway, I will see what I can do in using this information. Honestly, it 
isn't very convenient to wade through all the files and information just 
to find out that there is no alt-text. That's a feature not a bug ;)

As said, we'll do our best. Thank you for your effort.

Best,
   Shadi


Votis Konstantinos wrote:
> Hi Shadi,
> 
> please find attached an xls file which contains errors based on the assessment of the following web sites:
> 
> 1) http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/
>  2)http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/news/
> 3)http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/tickets/
> 4)http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/survey/
> 5)http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/template/
> 
> Please keep in mind that the Web assessment has been done with the usage of our ACCESSIBLE Web assemsnet tool which is under development and supports WCAG 1.0 and 2.0. Because the user interface of the tool isn;t ready and we are still working in order to make it usable for end users please find attached 5 txt files (extracted from the NETBEANS) that can be used in order to find out the extracted accessbility errors. As an example:
> 
> within the page http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/ there are 2 images without alt text. By opening the home.txt file and searching for <A href ....you can see the following images that they don;t have alt text:
> 
> <IMG alt="" src="../../img/after/teaser_right1.jpg">
> <IMG alt="" src="../../img/after/teaser_right2.jpg"> 
> 
> This is the procedure that must be followed in order to find out the accessbility errors. Please keep in mind that we have also included some semi-automatic tests where user should also check the content of the web site
> 
> I hope that the attached files can be sufficient to you. In any case please let me know 
> 
> i will remain at your diposal
> 
> regards,
> 
> Kostas (Votis is my surname :) )
>  
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Konstantinos Votis
> Computer Engineer & Informatics, Msc, MBA
> Research Associate
> Informatics and Telematics Institute
> Centre for Research and Technology Hellas
> 6th Klm. Charilaou - Thermi Road
> P.O. BOX 60361 GR - 570 01
> Thessaloniki - Greece
> Tel.: +30-2311-257722 
> Fax : +30-2310-474128 
> E-mail : kvotis@iti.gr
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Shadi Abou-Zahra 
>   To: Votis Konstantinos 
>   Cc: BAD TF 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: BAD preview for accessibility testing
> 
> 
>   Dear Votis,
> 
>   Thank you for your effort. Unfortunately we are not able to process the 
>   data provided by you for the following reasons:
> 
>   #1. we can not distinguish between warnings and real error messages
>   #2. we can not locate the precise occurrence of the issue (URI and line 
>   number or other types of pointers would be helpful to locate the issue)
> 
>   We would appreciate if you could provide an updated report, ideally one 
>   that only has confirmed accessibility errors.
> 
>   Best,
>      Shadi
> 
> 
>   Votis Konstantinos wrote:
>   > Hi Shadi,
>   > 
>   > please find atttached some accessbility errors (regarding WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0) based on the evaluation results from our ACCESSIBLE WEB assessment tool. The last column indicates the errors that should be fixed for the after demo Web page 
>   > 
>   > i will remain at your disposal
>   > 
>   > regards,
>   > 
>   > Kostas
>   > ---------------------------------------------------
>   > Konstantinos Votis
>   > Computer Engineer & Informatics, Msc, MBA
>   > Research Associate
>   > Informatics and Telematics Institute
>   > Centre for Research and Technology Hellas
>   > 6th Klm. Charilaou - Thermi Road
>   > P.O. BOX 60361 GR - 570 01
>   > Thessaloniki - Greece
>   > Tel.: +30-2311-257722 
>   > Fax : +30-2310-474128 
>   > E-mail : kvotis@iti.gr
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Shadi Abou-Zahra 
>   >   To: EOWG ; WAI-AGE TF 
>   >   Cc: BAD TF 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:27 PM
>   >   Subject: BAD preview for accessibility testing
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Dear EOWG, WAI-AGE TF,
>   > 
>   >   We hope to soon announce the Before and After Demo (BAD) for public 
>   >   review but before that, we would appreciate help in test-driving the 
>   >   actual Demo pages:
>   > 
>   >   # Before pages:
>   >     - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/before/home/>
>   >   # After pages:
>   >     - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/>
>   > 
>   >   Things to think about are:
>   >     - ideas to help the navigation and use of the Demo
>   >     - inconsistencies or confusing aspects of the Demo
>   >     - accessibility improvements for the "After pages"
>   >     - other best practices or code clean-up suggestions
>   > 
>   >   Please send your feedback to the BAD Task Force *only* to avoid clutter 
>   >   and cross-posting between the mailing lists:
>   >     - <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>
>   > 
>   >   We welcome any other thoughts or suggestions but for now we want to 
>   >   focus primarily on the actual Demo pages. We will be bringing back 
>   >   revisions to the Demo "wrapper pages" (the overview, description of 
>   >   barriers, and evaluation report pages) for review at a later stage.
>   > 
>   >   Thank you for your help on finalizing the Demo!
>   > 
>   >   Best,
>   >      Shadi
>   > 
>   >   -- 
>   >   Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
>   >      WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
>   >     W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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