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[Issue-101] Summary of comments of the proposed diagrams

From: Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 01:34:34 +0000
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With respect to conveying that implementations should be done (well) before CR, Wayne Carr (wc) suggests replacing "ideally implemented" with
[wc] How about: "Implementations Completing".

[SZ]That certainly does a better job of suggesting early implementation.

David Singer said:
we're trying to document what events permit or trigger a state transition.

The phrase '[very] substantive changes required' should be '[very] substantive changes' maybe with 'occurred' appended.

'wide review' should be 'widely reviewed'
'interoperable implementation' needs an 's'

Charles McCathie Nevile said:
The basic accessibility of the earlier diagram has all gone.
[SZ] True, but it can be restored (by hand editing if necessary) if we agree on the diagram. That would include putting in the links to the relevant sections and transitions.

For example, *during* the WD phase the group should be:
   - stabilizing the draft
   - getting wide review
   + design patterns, a11y, i18n, privacy, security, authorability,  usability, ...
   - checking that implementations (especially independent implementations)  are interoperable
   - developing a test/implementation report plan for CR

[SZ] I agree with all of the above comment (and most of the other comments in the message). The problem I have is seeing how these comments can be reflected in the diagram. WD is a maturity level in which most of the work on a specification is done, but it is only one of four maturity levels and unless we make the maturity level ovals much, much bigger we cannot put all the activities appropriate to the WD level in the oval. The original request was to document stability and implementation status. That is what has been done.

I think it takes a different diagram, perhaps an expansion of the WD level, to adequately address the question of starting the activities that will get you to CR. Short of that, however, I do not see a good way of reflecting these activities in the Maturity Level transition diagram.

I have attached an updated section 6.7 diagram with Wayne's and David's suggestions implemented. I await suggestions on how to diagram Charles' suggestions.

Steve Z



Edited REC Diagram - 2.svg
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