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Re: [Issue-101] Replacement for the other of the diagrams in the Process document

From: Wayne Carr <wayne.carr@linux.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 21:22:15 -0700
To: Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-ID: <56134C77.3090304@linux.intel.com>


On 2015-10-05 21:07, Stephen Zilles wrote:
> Mark,
> See comments below,
> Steve Z
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:mnot@mnot.net]
>> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 8:00 PM
>> To: Stephen Zilles
>> Cc: public-w3process@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: [Issue-101] Replacement for the other of the diagrams in the
>> Process document
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I like the document as an illustration.
>>
>> But.
>>
>> I think this perpetuates the view that implementation comes after
>> specification, where there's a substantial body of evidence (and dare I say it,
>> a prevailing view) that this is backwards; the code needs to be running before
>> you can set up a positive feedback cycle to influence the specification.
> [SZ] I totally agree with the need for early implementation and that was what I was trying to imply with the use of "ideally implemented" in the CR bubble. Do you have suggestions for a better way to convey this point. The catch is that implementation is not required prior to CR; it is only encourage. If you want to require implementation, then that is, as you say below, a bigger question.

[wc] How about: "Implementations Completing".   That wouldn't imply 
there weren't implementations earlier, but would get across this 
finalizing the required compatible implementations needed to move on to PR.



>> Now, it may be that this is a larger, different issue that we need to talk about
>> and address separately, but it'd be nice not to encourage that view.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>> On 6 Oct 2015, at 1:17 pm, Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A proposed, revised replacement for diagram in sections 6.7 of the 2015
>> Process Document
>>>    http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#revised-rec
>>> is attached.
>>>
>>> Comments are welcome
>>>
>>> Steve Z
>>>
>
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