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Re: warnings on outdated specs/docs

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:28:14 -0400
To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Cc: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>, "Michael Champion (MS OPEN TECH)" <Michael.Champion@microsoft.com>, "ted@w3.org" <ted@w3.org>, Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>, "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20150326182814.GY2228@opera.rednote.net>
How about an:

ls -lrt

of the files behind the "latest" pointers that reference themselves
instead of some other doc?

Shane McCarron writes:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> > OK, this is beginning to converge.
> >
> > 1) If the ‘latest version’ link is other than the current document,
> > display the floater, inviting the reader to see the latest version?
> >   — what if the latest version has significantly different maturity?  i.e.
> > you are looking at PR of 1.0, there is a PR of 2.0 but the latest is a WD
> > of 2.1.  Which does the user want?
> >
> > 2) If there isn’t a ‘latest version’ link, allow anyone to ask that such
> > be added, in the case the automatic system missed it.  E.g. add to WCAG 1.0
> > a latest version to 2.0?
> >
> > I realize #2 is manual, but what else do we have?
> >
> 
> and 3) If a spec supersedes another and the shortname changed, redirect the
> old shortname to the new shortname.  Also a manual step that is part of
> pubs process I would guess.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:48 , Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Absolutely. Where we have abandoned short names, we should certainly
> > > turn those into redirects.
> > >
> > > We're currently proposing this as the (soon to be FPWD of) HTML-AAM
> > > supercedes the older, now to be abandoned document and shortname:
> > >
> > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015Mar/0065.html
> > >
> > > So, I suppose we should launch a crawler to help find these? That seems
> > > eminently achievable.
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > Shane McCarron writes:
> > >> Okay - but in this case could we just redirect that short name to 2.0?
> > I
> > >> mean, seriously.  That's what we did with RDFa when the short name
> > >> changed.  My understanding is that this is what is supposed to happen
> > as a
> > >> matter of course when a short name changes.
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/
> > >> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-rdfa-syntax-20081014/
> > >> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-core/
> > >> [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/REC-rdfa-core-20150317/
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Steve Faulkner <
> > faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 26 March 2015 at 04:00, Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Can't it just say "This spec is obsolete.  Click the 'latest version'
> > >>>> link to see the latest version?  This could be generically applied to
> > every
> > >>>> old spec.  Or at least almost every.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Unfortunately for some specs, WCAG 1.0 for example
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> There is no link to the latest version (i.e. wcag 2.0)
> > >>>
> > >>>> Latest version: http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT
> > >>>
> > >>> unlike HTML 4.01
> > >>>
> > >>> Latest version of HTML:http://www.w3.org/TR/html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>>
> > >>> SteveF
> > >>> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shane McCarron
> > >> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka, Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
> > >                       sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
> > >               Email:  janina@rednote.net
> > >
> > > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:     http://a11y.org
> > >
> > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > > Chair,        Protocols & Formats     http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
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> >
> > David Singer
> > Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Shane McCarron
> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.

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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
			sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
		Email:	janina@rednote.net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair,	Protocols & Formats	http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
	Indie UI			http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/
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