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Re: Open and Transparent W3C Community Group Proposed

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:22:05 -0700
Cc: W3C Members <w3c-ac-forum@w3.org>, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com>
Message-id: <55FB32B7-1E00-41C2-89D5-EC18D8E63FFD@apple.com>
To: Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
I would like to suggest a process revision:  that no CG be created until 1 week has elapsed from its proposal.  This gives (a really tiny amount of) time for AC and staff review.

As I note elsewhere, this groupís name is inappropriate.  A CG may be inappropriate for a whole host of other reasons.

Is it really reasonable to complain that a group, proposed on a Sunday, has not been created by Monday morning?

On Aug 4, 2014, at 6:26 , Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com> wrote:

> This proposal already has more than five supporters so why has the group not been created?
> On 8/3/14 7:09 PM, "ext Do Not Reply" <nobody@w3.org> wrote:
> The Open and Transparent W3C Community Group has been proposed:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Although the World Wide Web (WWW) is an open and free information
> system, participation in the member-based World Wide Web Consortium
> (W3C) typically requires paying a membership fee to participate in the
> Consortium's standards setting groups. As such, the W3C is often
> criticized as a closed organization by those that are not members of the
> Consortium. This group aspires to help provide non Members with simple
> mechanisms to provide feedback to the Consortium (the Consortium's
> Members and the Consortium's Staff) on topics such as (but not limited
> to): areas where new Web standards are needed (e.g. to help address some
> interoperability pain point), Consortium priorities, the evolution of
> the Web, aligning Consortium's activities with the Web, collaboration
> with other organizations, etc.
> Anyone - including non-Members - is welcome and encouraged to join this
> group. Participants include technical contributors to Web standards, Web
> standards Editors and group Chairs. The group also includes participants
> from the Consortium's "Advisory Committee" and at least one member of
> the Consortium's elected Advisory Board. Additionally, the group
> welcomes members of the Consortium's staff.
> If someone wants to communicate with this group but does not want to
> formally join it, that's OK; just send an email to the group's mail
> list: public-openw3c@w3.org (see   for the list archive and RSS feed
> information).
> --------------------------------------------------
> You are invited to support the creation of this group:
>  http://www.w3.org/community/groups/proposed#openw3c
> Once the group has a total of five supporters, it will be launched and
> people can join to begin work. Once launched, the group will no longer
> be listed as "proposed"; it will appear in the list of current groups:
>  http://www.w3.org/community/groups/
> In order to support the group, you will need a W3C account. To request one:
>  http://www.w3.org/community/account/request
> If you believe that there is an issue with this group that requires
> the attention of the W3C staff, please send us email on
> site-comments@w3.org.
> Thank you,
> W3C Community Development Team

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Monday, 4 August 2014 16:22:58 UTC

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