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Re: Move schema:fileSize & schema:fileFormat to schema:CreativeWork

From: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:50:41 +0100
Cc: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Message-Id: <22C4F288-EEC8-4EC7-A821-0855FCFC5CD0@greggkellogg.net>
To: "kcoyle@kcoyle.net" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:
> 
> There may not be an easy way to do this, but "same content, different format" and "different content but related concepts" may need to be differentiated.

+1 plus consider other concepts for FRBR: original work(s), various contributors, deviations, and encodings.

Use cases for music, TV, movies, radio. Recordings of sporting events, ...

Gregg

> Actually, the former now reminds me of the accessibility proposals, which might solve this, since those were focused specifically on different technology capabilities of the same content, so that people needing a particular technology or accessibility feature could know that they were getting the same content, not something different.
> 
> kc
> 
>> On 9/4/14, 11:12 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:08:55AM -0700, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/4/14, 8:36 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
>>>>> How can we express that there is a PDF and an ODT of the same document?
>>>> 
>>>> ... thanks to the workExample / exampleOfWork properties that were
>>>> recently added to schema.org, you can express those relationships. See
>>>> https://github.com/rvguha/schemaorg/pull/108 for a request to add
>>>> examples for those properties to schema.org (where we express that there
>>>> are both book editions and movie adaptations of a given novel).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My gut feeling is that PDF/ODT is not the same as a book and a movie
>>> derived from the book. Would both be coded with workExample?
>> 
>> Hmm, my gut feels differently than your gut. I would say yes, they would
>> be coded with either or both of exampleOfWork and workExample.
>> 
>> exampleOfWork: "A creative work that this work is an
>> example/instance/realization/derivation of."
>> 
>> Let's add LaTeX to the mix. If you are in the business of running a
>> repository of open access scholarly articles, you might want to offer
>> LaTeX, HTML, and PDF versions of each article. Each format would exist
>> at a different URL*, and they are three different instances of the
>> same creative work, right?
>> 
>> * Well, okay, you could use content-negotiation to serve them up at the
>> same URL, but that seems unlikely to occur on the normal web.
>> 
> 
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