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Re: Am I right that WebPage lacks a generic property for linking to WebPageElement?

From: Jarno van Driel <jarno@quantumspork.nl>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:59:28 +0100
Message-ID: <CAFQgrbYD4MtnyfL+Dz_=rN_60nvJQJ5mg9JQn_dPZfD=q4cOdw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Cc: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>, Public Vocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
I was wondering, is there a conclusive answer yet as to whether it's
alright to connect a WebPageElement to a WebPage by means of the 'mentions'
property or will it be the 'hasPart' property once the
'WebSchemas/Periodicals, Articles and Multi-volume Works' proposal is
done/accepted and should I start using that already?

I'm already using 'mentions' for about a year now on multiple sites and I'm
doubtful on how to proceed on new sites.


On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Martin Hepp <
martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote:

> Hi Wes,
> Tanks, but I think we need a conceptual element at the level of schema.org,
> independent of syntax. One day people will use JSON-LD to expose respective
> information, so HTML5- or WAI-ARIA elements are of limited use.
> Martin
>
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Wes Turner wrote:
>
> > WAI-ARIA:
> >
> >     role="navigation" aria-label="main navigation"
> >
> > HTML5:
> >
> >     <nav aria-label="main navigation">
> >
> > Though for backward compatibility, it may be helpful to also specify
> role="navigation" with HTML5 <nav> elements.
> >
> > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAI-ARIA
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_HTML5_nav_element
> >
> > Wes Turner
> > On Jan 19, 2014 2:49 AM, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
> wrote:
> > Dear all:
> >
> > As far as I understand,
> >
> >     http://schema.org/WebPageElement
> >
> > would provide a nice way of exposing the meaning of, and meta-data for,
> page elements, which could be used by search engines e.g. for guessing the
> best contextual links (as opposed to breadcrumbs, which imply some kind of
> hierarchy). In particular, one could nicely use
> >
> >     http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement
> >
> > to mark-up important links inside the page, which would often make good
> contextual links.
> >
> > Unfortunately,
> >
> >     http://schema.org/WebPage
> >
> > does not define a generic property for linking from the WebPage to
> multiple
> >
> >     http://schema.org/WebPageElement
> >
> > entities in the same page.
> >
> > Formally,
> >
> >     http://schema.org/mentions
> >
> > would work, but I am unsure whether this is intended.
> >
> >     http://schema.org/isPartOf
> >
> > would work from the perspective of the
> >
> >     http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement,
> >
> > but could lead to circular processing of the data.
> >
> >     http://schema.org/mainContentOfPage
> >
> > works only for the most important WegPageElement.
> >
> > I think the best solution would be to add a property
> >
> >     http://schema.org/pageElement
> >
> > Indicates that the web page element is a relevant part of the Web page
> (e.g. for linking from a web page to its site navigation elements).
> >
> > What do others think? Did I miss anything?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > martin hepp
> > e-business & web science research group
> > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
> >
> > e-mail:  hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
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> >
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> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> martin hepp
> e-business & web science research group
> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
>
> e-mail:  hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
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> twitter: mfhepp
>
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