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RE: FictionalThing proposal added to Web Schemas wiki

From: Michael Hopwood <michael@editeur.org>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:22:24 +0000
To: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>, "LeVan,Ralph" <levan@oclc.org>
CC: Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>, "Wallis,Richard" <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>, Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>, "Web Schemas TF" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
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Thanks Mo!

That's exactly the central edge case (oops): "what about real people appearing 'as themselves' in a fictional work? The person themselves is as real as you or I, but the events in which they participate are fictional"

Or - what about where the events & people are all real, but there are several versions of each? In the end you come back to the central problem, "who says?" or "where does it say"?

<indecs> [1] and CIDOC-CRM [2], and schemas based on them, both deal with this by simply adding explicit provenance, and allowing person, thing & event as subject (e.g. in LIDO [3] or ONIX [4])...

[1] http://www.doi.org/topics/indecs/indecs_framework_2000.pdf
[2] www.cidoc-crm.org/
[3] http://www.lido-schema.org/schema/v1.0/lido-v1.0-schema-listing.html
[4] http://www.editeur.org/83/Overview/ 

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From: Mo McRoberts [mailto:Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk] 
Sent: 19 February 2013 15:07
To: LeVan,Ralph
Cc: Ed Summers; Wallis,Richard; Michael Hopwood; Dawson, Laura; Martin Hepp; Thad Guidry; Web Schemas TF; Gregg Kellogg
Subject: Re: FictionalThing proposal added to Web Schemas wiki

As I understand it, the BBC's internal archive classification scheme wrestled with precisely this issue - in the end it settled on 'people', 'fictional people' and 'religious entities', with some fairly clear guidelines about what to do if there was doubt about which of latter two somewhere should sit (and all three were considered mutually exclusive). At least then the consumer of the data can deal with the information as it sees fit.
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