Re: FPWG for IMSC 1.2

Thierry,

Thanks for pointing out the Process wording. I had not noticed that before.

Philippe,

please could you unblock this? I'd suggest you could help either by prompting the Director to approve the new Charter or by requesting an exception to this normal rule on the grounds that TTWG is chartered either under the old or the new charter, and that, though this is a FPWD, it is effectively a new iteration on an existing Rec.

kind regards,

Nigel



From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Sunday, 10 November 2019 at 12:12
To: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>, Atsushi Shimono <atsushi@w3.org>
Cc: TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: FPWG for IMSC 1.2


Pierre,

I had prepare the IMSC 1.2 Transition Request on Oct 26th.

But it may be that the TTWG can not currently publish FPWD, regarding the W3C process as the TTWG charter is awaiting a Director's decision on the Advisory Committee Review.

« Transition Requests to First Public Working Draft or Candidate Recommendation<https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#candidate-rec> will not normally be approved while a Working Group's charter is undergoing or awaiting a Director's decision on an Advisory Committee Review. ».
https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#transition-reqs


The AC review of new Timed Text WG Charter started Aug 12th. and ended September 10th 2019.

Result are available here (for those with proper access)
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/tt-2019/results

It is now two months since the AC review is over, not sure why the Director did not yet pronounce his decision.

Best,

Thierry






On 08/11/2019 23:35, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux wrote:

Hi Atsushi,



My input below.



- I need to cite the resolution in transition request, could you write short email on that?

See https://www.w3.org/2019/10/10-tt-minutes.html




- For outreach, short story is desired for FPWD release news. Could someone write one?

Ok. When is the deadline?



- how about publication target date to Nov/14?

Sounds good to me.



and we are about to merge #496 for finishing FPWD document.

Please generate the FPWD from #496, but do not merge the branch. I

will merge it after the FPWD is published.



- [ ] change date to target FPWD publication

Done at #496



- [ ] check remaining 'XXX' points

Can you clarify what you mean?



Best,



-- Pierre







On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:40 AM Atsushi Shimono (W3C Team)

<atsushi@w3.org><mailto:atsushi@w3.org> wrote:

   hi Pierre, all,



# starting taking over this...



   I think CfC period over (although resolution has not stated yet, neither in call minutes nor

email on mail list?), and we are about to merge #496 for finishing FPWD document.



   From process side, may I ask some in addition to these?

- I need to cite the resolution in transition request, could you write short email on that?

     e.g. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-immersive-web-wg/2019Sep/0011.html


- For outreach, short story is desired for FPWD release news. Could someone write one?

     e.g. https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/7951


          https://www.w3.org/blog/2018/09/json-ld-guiding-principles-first-public-working-draft/


- how about publication target date to Nov/14?

   - need to get transition request approved shortly

   - publication work will be on Tue/Thu : https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2010JanMar/0037.html






   Transition request draft is this, as already noted (no change).

https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/180






-------- checklist at myside

- [x] spellcheck (nothing found)

- [x] metadata

- [x] link check

- [x] pubrules

   - should be performed by respec but not pubrules checker (?)

- [ ] respec error

   - should be fixed by #496

- [ ] change date to target FPWD publication

- [ ] check remaining 'XXX' points







On 2019/10/30 19:19, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux wrote:

Hi Thierry,



Quick clarification.



The FPWD should simply be generated from [1].



I had mistakenly thought that [1] depended on [2]. This was not the

case, and [2] was merged into the current editor's draft.



[1] https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/496


[2] https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/504




Best,



-- Pierre



On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:21 AM Pierre-Anthony Lemieux

<pal@sandflow.com><mailto:pal@sandflow.com> wrote:

Hi Thierry et al.,



But there seem to be a Commit for "Correct HTTP reference"  for which Pierre requested review from Ashimura and Nigel

on October 10th days ago. I am not sure there is  approval yet.

The FPWD should be generated from:



https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/496




after



https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/504




has been merged into it COB today (to satisfy the 14 day review period).



Best,



-- Pierre



On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:49 AM Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org><mailto:tmichel@w3.org> wrote:

Nigel, Atsushi and all,



PlH asked me to look into the publication of IMSC1.2 FPWD



I think this spec publication was discussed during the meeting at TPAC sept 18th , where unfortunately I could not participate.

https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-tt-minutes.html#x11




Therefore I have investigated into it:



Looking at Github https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/485


there was a remaining issue about " Add support for #font using external resources".

This issue was discussed during the sept 5th teleconference before following TPAC and is resolved.



 From what I remember from the following teleconferences I attended after TPAC,



- this was first discussed  during the 03 october telecon,

https://www.w3.org/2019/10/03-tt-minutes.html#x08


which triggered a PR which was approved by Glenn and Nigel and PR was merged.



at the end of this discussion there was a remaining issue about Vladimir  to review this pull request. Did we receive any comment from him ?



This FPWD publication was also discussed  during  the 10 october telecon,

https://www.w3.org/2019/10/10-tt-minutes.html#x04




There was a resolution to publish IMSC1.2 as FPWD after a 10 working days period according to our Decision Policy, for consensus, starting on October 10th and ending Octobre 25th.



Today, this period as ended and therefore I believe we can start the process of transition/publication request.



The FPWD is  available at

https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/496




But there seem to be a Commit for "Correct HTTP reference"  for which Pierre requested review from Ashimura and Nigel  on October 10th days ago. I am not sure there is  approval yet.



Let me know.





Nevertheless, I have requested Transition to the director.

https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/180




But as Atsushi recommended, this Transition Request is on HOLD until we have a final Green light from the TTWG.





Thierry