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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2016-11-03

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 21:53:30 +0000
To: W3C Public TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D44010D4.2EBB5%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 90m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.

Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.

Warning, some countries are no longer in DST. Check your diaries!

and: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20161103T10&p1=43<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20161027T10&p1=43>

Thursdays 10:03am-11:30am (or 12:00pm for 2 hour meetings) Boston local

Joining details:

see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
(members-only link  if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)

Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chairs: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: usually Nigel  open to offers!

Regrets: Andreas

Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products

Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics  I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. F2F Meeting planning
2. IMSC
3. Profiles registry
4. TTML2 issues, actions, PRs etc
5. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
6. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
7. Unicode liaison
8. WebVTT comments
9. AOB  please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

November Meetings:

1st November: draft (last) TTML2 Working Draft
Thursday 3rd November: TTWG phone meeting 1.5 hours
Thursday 10th November: TTWG phone meeting 1.5 hours
Thursday 17th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 24th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Further ahead:

Thursday 1st December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 8th December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 15th December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 22nd December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 29th December: No meeting
Thursday 5th January: No meeting

IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work

Thursday 12th January and Friday 13th January, F2F Meeting in London, UK. Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/F2F-jan-2017
Please register for the F2F by adding your name to the wiki by 23rd December 2016.

Agenda+ IMSC

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-479<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/479>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/479/edit>     pending review  Refactor the imsc repository in preparation for future versions of imsc.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/479>  Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  2016-09-26      TTML IMSC 2.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/10>
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-478<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/478>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/478/edit>     open    Draft a liaison to hbbtv requesting further information and proposing an option e.g. to extend imsc 1 to allow signalling of background height on span, and request timelines etc.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/478>        Nigel Megitt    2016-09-26      TTML IMSC 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/7>
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-484<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/484>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/484/edit>     open    Draft a response liaison to dvb thanking them for incoming and requesting more details re timeline<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/484>        Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  2016-10-27

Merged pull requests: None
Open pull requests: Prepare repo to hold next version of IMSC<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/186>
New issues: none

Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.

Agenda+ Profiles registry.

Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/

Reminder: we plan to revisit the profiles registry in mid-November to resolve any outstanding issues

Merged pull request: n<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/27>one
Open pull requests: Add section 4 descriptions<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/28>; Update index.html<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/30>
Closed issues: none
New issue: none

https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry

Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit>     open    Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>   Glenn Adams     2016-08-26      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit>     open    Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>   Glenn Adams     2016-04-28      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-480<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480/edit>     open    Request schedule time for horizontal review of ttml2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480>      Thierry Michel  2016-09-26      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-481<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/481>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/481/edit>     open    Provide nigel with a list of new features in ttml2 to begin reviewing<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/481>     Glenn Adams     2016-09-26      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>

Merged Pull Requests: Issue 0132 font variant<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/211>
Open Pull Requests: Issue 0193 add examples of ja features<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/202>.
New TTML1 Issues: cell metric in tts:textOutline<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/218>; Process [construct intermediate document] prunes "set" elements<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/216>
New TTML2 Issues: cell metric in tts:textOutline<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/217>; Use of 'em' units in tts:fontSize on region element is not well defined.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/216>; tts:extent="auto" vs tts:extent="100% 100%"<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/215>; tts:extent="auto" vs tts:extent="100% 100%"<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/215>; Avoid populating non-applicable, non-inheritable styles in SSS(E).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/213>; Avoid populating non-applicable, non-inheritable styles in SSS(E).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/213>; Process [construct intermediate document] prunes "set" elements<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/210>
Discussed and Closed TTML1 Issues: [Specified Style Set Processing] Initial values only applied to regions<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/217>; Use of 'em' units in tts:fontSize on region element is not well defined.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/206>; ambiguous definition for determination of descendant region identifier<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/194>
Discussed and Closed TTML2 Issues: Rules for splitting and accumulating documents<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/91>; Update IANA registration for TTML2<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/115>; Add media registration annex<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/116>; Normatively define short code processorProfiles parameter<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/117>; Generalise tts:fontVariantPosition<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/132>; Two value percentage fontSize not fully defined<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/200>

The comment https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/217#issuecomment-257919913 on issue 217: "cell metric in tts:textOutline" requests group input.

Wide review: the TAG has added an agenda item to review TTML2 to their Tokyo meeting<https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/blob/gh-pages/2016/11-tokyo/agenda.md> on 23rd November.

Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues

See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx

Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md

More volunteers welcomed!

TTML Change Proposals  progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex

The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>


Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/

Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit>     open    Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>      Andreas Tai     2015-11-05


See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week.

Also HTML import and HTMLCue?<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email from 2016-09-06.

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Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915

There have been no further notes on this for 7 months since IMSC1 Publication.

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Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-473<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit>     open    Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>        Thierry Michel  2016-06-30      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>

Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.

WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review

Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions to authors.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>; Fix #270: Add classes to specify text colour<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for region identifier to exist.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
New issues: None
Closed issues: None
Recently discussed issues: None

Agenda+ AOB

References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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