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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 24/7/2014

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:34:41 +0000
To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CFF58383.20717%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux, Glenn Adams (in several cases their dispositions re particular issues have been sent to the reflector so we will proceed where we can)

Activity since last meeting: IMSC timeline; Change proposal prioritisation; discussion of issues: Issue-259, Issue-309, Issue-313, Issue-314, Issue-317; Issues raised: Issue-325, Issue-326, Issue-327 and Issue-328.

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting

Check-point for order of topics  I'd suggest:
1. IMSC 1 timeline and future meeting durations
3. Actions,
4. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then raised (where dispositions present or provided in advance)
5. Planning for next change proposals to work on
6. AOB

Agenda+ IMSC 1 timeline and future meeting durations

Proposal timeline at [1] to expedite publication:

* All issues with the editor's draft to be raised by 5th September;
* Any new issues arising purely from the consideration of TTML <--> WebVTT mapping at our Geneva F2F, to be submitted ASAP after that meeting;
* Version suitable for review prior to submission as Last Call by October 15, with all issues either resolved or deferred (until the LC review process or v.future).

Plus liaison to key organisations informing them of this timeline.

In order to process the outstanding issues I also propose that we modify the duration of upcoming meetings until end of August as follows:

July 31: 2 hours
August 7: 1 hour
August 14: 2 hours
August 21: 1 hour
August 28: NM regrets  anyone want to chair for this meeting?

Agenda+ Action items pending review

The following actions relate to issue-259. From comments on the email reflector it appears that all who have been involved so far are happy to close, so in the absence of other comments I will aim to close these actions and the issue.
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-207<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207/edit>       pending review  Add round-down clarification to "closest" language, see issue-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>  Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-258<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258/edit>       pending review  Work with pal to resolve edits needed for issue-259 comments<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>       Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ISSUE-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259/edit>
Closest PENDING REVIEW  Define "closest"<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259>    2013-06-27      TTML2   0


ACTION-306<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306/edit>       pending review  Assign priorities to change proposals owned by jdsmith<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306>     Jerry Smith     2014-07-24



Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-234<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit>       open    Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>      Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-236<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit>       open    Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>       Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-285<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit>       open    Implement proposed errata in issue-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>     Glenn Adams     2014-05-01      Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>
ACTION-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit>       open    Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>  Glenn Adams     2014-05-01
ACTION-287<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit>       open    Elaborate on wording in 4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>       Glenn Adams     2014-05-08
ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit>       open    Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>   Mike Dolan      2014-05-29
ACTION-295<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit>       open    Socialise the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>      David Singer    2014-06-05
ACTION-298<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit>       open    Either proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>      Glenn Adams     2014-06-12

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304/edit>       open    Assign priorities to change proposals owned by glenn<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304>       Glenn Adams     2014-07-24
ACTION-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305/edit>       open    Assign priorities to change proposals owned by pal<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  2014-07-24
ACTION-307<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307/edit>       open    Assign priorities to change proposals owned by mdolan<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307>      Mike Dolan      2014-07-24

Agenda+ Issues pending review, discussed and raised over the past week

We do not have advanced notice of disposition from those involved for the following Pending Review issues, and have regrets from key people involved, so this list is for reference only:
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-263<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit>  PENDING REVIEW  profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>      2013-07-17      TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US)   0
ISSUE-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names     PENDING REVIEW  Registry of TTML profiles and short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>   2014-05-01              0
ISSUE-323<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323/edit>
Content Processor behaviour is normative        PENDING REVIEW  Content Processor behaviour is normative<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323>    2014-07-09      TTML2   0

The following issues are 'raised' and in the absence of contrary debate will be moved to Open in this meeting:
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-324<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324/edit>
Prefer end to dur on generated out-of-line regions      RAISED  Prefer end to dur on generated out-of-line regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324>  2014-07-09      TTML2   0
ISSUE-325<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325/edit>  RAISED  Add 'prohibited' value to @ttp:validation<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325>   2014-07-17      TTML2   0
ISSUE-326<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326/edit>  RAISED  definitions do not use shall, uses of definitions may use shall<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326>     2014-07-17      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-327<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327/edit>
IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines       RAISED  IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>   2014-07-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-328<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328/edit>
John Birch      RAISED  ittm:altText should be in TT namespace in TTML 2.0<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328>  2014-07-23      TTML2   0



The following issues were discussed recently, and dispositions have been provided on the reflector from those involved in the discussion so far, who have sent their regrets:
ISSUE-309<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309/edit>
Image profile fails WCAG 1.2    OPEN    Image profile needs to permit text equivalent<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>       2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-313<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313/edit>
Presented Region is informative only    OPEN    Presented Region section is informative only<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>        2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-314<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions    OPEN    Temporally active is not defined for regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>        2014-05-21      TTML 1.0        0
ISSUE-317<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317/edit>
IMSC should not require frame alignment OPEN    IMSC should not require frame alignment<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>     2014-05-22      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

Agenda+ Change Proposals  progress and review

Change Proposal 2 [3] has been edited in line with last week's discussion  do edits to TTML2 now allow closure (allowing for some resolution to issue-324)?

Change Proposal Index is at [2].
Which Change Proposals would owners like to progress next? There are 20 open CPs.

Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues
August: Last Call

Agenda+ AOB


References

[1] IMSC 1 timeline email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jul/0027.html
[2] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
[3] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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