Re: Request for Disclosure of W3C TPWG Funding Sources

On 2/17/2014 2:27 PM, Alan Chapell wrote:
> Thanks Jeff. I agree, seems like it should be something for the AB to
> consider.
>
> Also, thanks - because I do another question.
>
> You mentioned that MSFT and Apple had kindly donated in 2014. And in
> August of 2013, you shared that Apple, Disney, Facebook, Intel, Microsoft,
> Mozilla, and Yahoo! had stepped up and provided funding.
>
> Did anyone else provide funding between August 2013 and January 2014?

No, there was no other request at that time.

>
> Thanks!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> On 2/14/14 1:39 PM, "Jeff Jaffe" <jeff@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>
>> It is a fair question why we don't have a policy that requires
>> disclosure.  Historically, we've had Sponsors who wanted to be disclosed
>> and others who wanted to remain anonymous.  We've had Sponsors for
>> years, and until we got to TPWG noone raised an issue about disclosure.
>> So we saw nothing wrong with allowing Sponsors to remain anonymous.
>>
>> Now that TPWG has twiced questioned the policy, it probably makes sense
>> for the W3C Advisory Board to take up the question.
>>
>> You asked me to answer David's questions.  Some are answered above. Some
>> were answered in an email I sent a few minutes ago.  Some were already
>> answered in the email that I sent on 23 January.  What remaining
>> questions do you have?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On 2/14/2014 1:26 PM, Alan Chapell wrote:
>>> Thanks Jeff. But that begs the question - why doesn't the W3C have a
>>> policy that requires disclosure of sponsors?
>>>
>>> Doesn't that seem reasonable given that the W3C holds itself out as an
>>> organization with transparent processes?
>>>
>>> In addition, if you could answer David's questions below, I'd appreciate
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/12/14 2:37 PM, "Jeff Jaffe" <jeff@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We don't have a defined policy per se.  Ordinarily Sponsors have a
>>>> choice to be public or remain anonymous.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On 2/12/2014 2:35 PM, Lee Tien wrote:
>>>>> Does W3C have a general, default policy on sponsorship disclosure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:44 AM, David Wainberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I still don't understand the rationale for not disclosing this
>>>>>> information right now. Are you saying these sponsors specifically
>>>>>> asked
>>>>>> for anonymity? And why wouldn't the W3C require disclosure? That
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> key to having a transparent process. If you are planning to disclose,
>>>>>> when do you anticipate you will do so? Is there a cut off date?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-01-26 10:09 PM, Jeff Jaffe wrote:
>>>>>>> Brooks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have not established a policy for the various sponsors of W3C
>>>>>>> events and activities that they must be publicly disclosed.  There
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> quite a number each year, and some prefer anonymity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last year, when there was a request for disclosure for TPWG, we
>>>>>>> consulted with the Sponsors.  There was general comfort with
>>>>>>> disclosure at that time; although some only wanted to disclose if
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the others would disclose as well.  I was pleased to be able to
>>>>>>> disclose the Sponsor names with the comfort of all of the Sponsors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to give this year's Sponsors the benefit of having that
>>>>>>> same discussion with other Sponsors for this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/24/2014 2:55 PM, Dobbs, Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with previous commenters here, and feel it is important for
>>>>>>>> there there to be transparency into financial support for this
>>>>>>>> effort.  I am not sure how the ongoing process of seeking more
>>>>>>>> contributors impacts the need for or timing of transparency.  Are
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> to take from this that a negotiable term in providing funding would
>>>>>>>> be to have such funding be non-disclosable?  If the list is simply
>>>>>>>> incomplete at this time, can I suggest we simply start with an
>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> showing current funders and add to it as new participants come on?
>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>> couple more TPWG emails won't push my box past its limit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brooks Dobbs, CIPP | Chief Privacy Officer | KBM Group | Part of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Wunderman Network
>>>>>>>> (Tel) 678 580 2683 | (Mob) 678 492 1662 | kbmg.com
>>>>>>>> brooks.dobbs@kbmg.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Mail Attachment.png>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email ¡© including attachments ¡© may contain confidential
>>>>>>>> information. If you are not the intended recipient,
>>>>>>>>    do not copy, distribute or act on it. Instead, notify the sender
>>>>>>>> immediately and delete the message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "Jack L. Hobaugh Jr" <jack@networkadvertising.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)"
>>>>>>>> <public-tracking@w3.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Request for Disclosure of W3C TPWG Funding Sources
>>>>>>>> Resent-From: <public-tracking@w3.org>
>>>>>>>> Resent-Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for raising this issue and reminding the community that this
>>>>>>>> fine work will best continue with additional sponsorship of the
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> - as we did last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In terms of listing the sponsors, I certainly don't want to do this
>>>>>>>> piecemeal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is early in the year and we are still talking to various
>>>>>>>> stakeholders about their willingness to sponsor.  I would like to
>>>>>>>> have the disclosure discussion after we have concluded the dialog
>>>>>>>> with potential sponsors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2014 4:47 PM, Jack L. Hobaugh Jr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Following the hiatus and during one of our weekly W3C TPWG
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday teleconferences, you had mentioned that the W3C had
>>>>>>>>> obtained additional funding for the TPWG©ös work.  One of the TPWG
>>>>>>>>> participants then asked you to please disclose the source of that
>>>>>>>>> funding.  You stated that you could not disclose the source of the
>>>>>>>>> funding at that time but that it might be possible to disclose
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> information at a later date. Could you please provide the TPWG
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> that information now?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jack L. Hobaugh Jr
>>>>>>>>> Network Advertising Initiative | Counsel & Senior Director of
>>>>>>>>> Technology
>>>>>>>>> 1634 Eye St. NW, Suite 750 Washington, DC 20006
>>>>>>>>> P: 202-347-5341 | jack@networkadvertising.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>

Received on Monday, 17 February 2014 19:30:25 UTC