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Re: Initial feedback on the well-known URI Proposal

From: Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:55:51 -0400
To: Lauren Gelman <gelman@blurryedge.com>, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
CC: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CB98D6B8.17D97%achapell@chapellassociates.com>
This is interesting - are there other off-the shelf implementations that
you (or others know of)?

Any feedback from folks on the list who have experimented with these


Alan Chapell
Chapell & Associates
917 318 8440

On 3/28/12 2:51 PM, "Lauren Gelman" <gelman@blurryedge.com> wrote:

>I work with small businesses.  I think that for sites that have the
>technical skill to implement targeted ads, it is not unreasonable to ask
>them to implement DNT.  There already are off-the shelf implementations.
>Here is an open source one for apache.
>On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Shane Wiley wrote:
>> David,
>> Almost all sites allow tracking from a hosted services perspective
>>(placing 3rd party tags or using native hosted services tools) but
>>typically in a first party sense.  Most site operators for small
>>business do not have the technical skill to "write a server config
>>file".  That said, I agree that hosted services may need to look at
>>beginning to offer these types of plug-n-play services for their
>> - Shane
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:45 PM
>> To: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
>> Subject: Re: Initial feedback on the well-known URI Proposal
>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 4:13 , Shane Wiley wrote:
>>> The one choice that does appear to be off the table at this point
>>>(unless someone strongly disagrees) is Response Headers in isolation as
>>>this would take years before medium to small web sites would be able to
>>>support DNT then (would require standard web server systems to come
>>>with off-the-shelf support for Response Headers).  Agreed?
>> I think if you're not doing any tracking, then they are roughly equally
>> a) write the server config file to say "I am not tracking" in the
>>response to every request
>> or
>> b) write a resource at the well-known location that says the same thing.
>> I am less clear about sites that do "small-scale" or "simple" tracking
>>(is there such a thing)?
>> On hosted sites, I would have thought that most of them don't give
>>access to the data that would allow tracking in the first place.  If
>>they *do* give such access, then their life is more complex.  If they
>>use the data themselves, it is similarly more complex.  One nasty hole
>>would be a hosting service that enables its customers to track their
>>customers, but not to see the DNT header or generate a response. They
>>have work to do.
>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>Lauren Gelman
>BlurryEdge Strategies
Received on Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:56:29 UTC

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