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RE: ACTION-110: Write proposal text for what it means to "not track" (ISSUE-119)

From: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:14:44 -0800
To: Ninja Marnau <nmarnau@datenschutzzentrum.de>
CC: "<public-tracking@w3.org> (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>, Tom Lowenthal <tom@mozilla.com>
Message-ID: <63294A1959410048A33AEE161379C8023D0CAFE9C9@SP2-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com>
Ninja,

No need to loosen the constraints - just wanted everyone to be clear that this extreme of a response option will hardly ever be used in reality.

- Shane

-----Original Message-----
From: Ninja Marnau [mailto:nmarnau@datenschutzzentrum.de] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:14 AM
To: Shane Wiley
Cc: <public-tracking@w3.org> (public-tracking@w3.org); Tom Lowenthal
Subject: Re: ACTION-110: Write proposal text for what it means to "not track" (ISSUE-119)

Hi Shane,

I understand your concerns that this may only apply to a few self hosted 
websites or privacy aware companies.

Is there an option to losen the requirements in a way that does not 
exclude 3rd party hosted sites?

- Ninja

Am 13.02.2012 17:44, schrieb Shane Wiley:
> Ninja,
>
> I agree with the sentiment (and that this should continue to be a response option) but want to call out that most small publishers do not have the ability to manage data collection at this level as they typically purchase hosting services from a 3rd party provider (often from their domain mgmt vendor).  It will take time for 3rd party providers to update their environments (if they even feel compelled) to allow for a strict "no collection" position so we shouldn't expect that this option will be used very often outside of highly technical, privacy sensitive, small web site publishers.
>
> - Shane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ninja Marnau [mailto:nmarnau@datenschutzzentrum.de]
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:10 AM
> To:<public-tracking@w3.org>  (public-tracking@w3.org); Tom Lowenthal
> Subject: ACTION-110: Write proposal text for what it means to "not track" (ISSUE-119)
>
> Here is my proposal for a definition of "absolutely not tracking":
>
> A party may claim that it is not tracking, if it
> 1) only collects identifying data which is strictly necessary to answer
> the user's HTTP request and to fulfil it's contractual obligation
> towards the user
> 2) does not send, collect or check for unique identifiers
> 3) does not correlate the data of a DNT HTTP request with any other data
> 4) deletes the identifying data as soon as the original purpose is fulfilled
>
>
> Motivation:
> This should be a starting point fo discussing a possible response header
> (This site does not track at all) fo very small websites that do no
> profiling or customisation at all. Currently, these websites have only
> the option to state within the response header that they comply with DNT
> and may use all the exceptions of the standard. This should not
> necessarily indicate that sites which do not adhere to the points above
> are tracking their users.
>
> -Ninja
>

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