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Re: ISSUE-130: Web-wide exceptions - iare there objections to permitting those?

From: Matthias Schunter <mts-std@schunter.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:21:24 +0200
Message-ID: <4F836EF4.3070806@schunter.org>
To: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
CC: "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Hi Shane,


from my perspective, this seems to be consensus. Let's validate it
during our face2face.

I agree with Nick that it is no clear consensus whether we want
Javascript/API support for it.

I personally believe that it is important to enable sites to
programmatically ask for such a web-wide exception. Otherwise, we will
end up with a unusable system that says "if you are using firefox,
please [...]. If you are using IE, please [...]. ...". The user agents
are still free to display ample warnings (if they wish to do so).

btw: I believe that we may also use our normative language to
differentiate these cases, i.e., whether we want a MUST/SHOULD/MAY for
Javascript support for each of these cases:
 
*User Granted Exceptions*  (Exception Type:  1st Party / 3rd Party
Domain Pair)
Site-Specific Exception:  Known 1st Party / Known 3rd Party
Site-Wide Exception:  Known 1st Party / *
Web-Wide Exception:  * / Known 3rd Party


Regards,
matthias


On 06/04/2012 01:00, Shane Wiley wrote:
> <Carriage returns lost somehow - resending as rich text>
>  
> *User Granted Exceptions*  (Exception Type:  1st Party / 3rd Party
> Domain Pair)
>  
> Site-Specific Exception:  Known 1st Party / Known 3rd Party
>  
> Site-Wide Exception:  Known 1st Party / *
>  
> Web-Wide Exception:  * / Known 3rd Party
>  
> - Shane
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Wiley [mailto:wileys@yahoo-inc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:56 PM
> To: Matthias Schunter
> Cc: public-tracking@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ISSUE-130: Web-wide exceptions - iare there objections to
> permitting those?
>  
> Matthias,
>  
> It was my understanding we had consensus to allow this conceptually. 
>  
> User Granted Exceptions  (Exception Type:  1st Party / 3rd Party
> Domain Pair)
>  
> Site-Specific Exception:  Known 1st Party / Known 3rd Party
> Site-Wide Exception:  Known 1st Party / *
> Web-Wide Exception:  * / Known 3rd Party
>  
> - Shane
>  
>  
> Mar 28, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Matthias Schunter wrote:
>  
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > from the lack of discussion on the mailing list, I gather that granting
> > a web-wide exception to
> > (e.g.) a producer of a widget does not raise huge concerns.
> >
> > Is there actually consensus on allowing such an exeption? If yes, I'd
> > like to close ISSUE-130.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > matthias
> >
>  
> Lauren Gelman
> BlurryEdge Strategies
> 415-627-8512
> gelman@blurryedge.com
> http://blurryedge.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
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