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RE: Plan to transition Web Notifications spec to LCWD

From: Carr, Wayne <wayne.carr@intel.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:57 +0000
To: "Kis, Zoltan" <zoltan.kis@intel.com>, Jon Lee <jonlee@apple.com>
CC: "public-sysapps@w3.org" <public-sysapps@w3.org>
Message-ID: <52F8A45B68FD784E8E4FEE4DA9C6E52A86CA4B88@ORSMSX110.amr.corp.intel.com>
I think we should separate this instead of cross posting to the 2 WGs. I've removed the Web Notifications WG list from this post.

I think the SysApps WG should decide if it wants to make a recommendation as a WG for things they would like from the Web Notifications WG and the Web Notifications WG should consider this separately as feedback on their Last Call draft.  

Intel is a member of the SysApps WG, but not the Web Notifications WG.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kis, Zoltan [mailto:zoltan.kis@intel.com]
>Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:53 AM
>To: Jon Lee
>Cc: public-sysapps@w3.org; WG; Carr, Wayne
>Subject: Re: Plan to transition Web Notifications spec to LCWD
>
>Hello,
>
>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Jon Lee <jonlee@apple.com> wrote:
>> Today, the Web Notifications WG[1] has published a Last Call Working
>> Draft of the Web Notifications specification:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-notifications-20130912/
>>
>> We're targeting October 24 as the end date for the LC review period.
>>
>> During the review period, the Web Notifications WG would like to have
>> specific review from the WebApps, WebApps Security, System
>> Applications, DAP, and Protocols and Formats WGs. Reviews from other
>groups are welcome.
>>
>> On behalf of the Web Notifications WG, Jon
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/web-notifications/
>
>I would like to ask whether the following use cases would also be in the scope
>of this API.
>
>The Web Notifications spec seems to provide for graphical notifications raised
>from web content. Some systems also play sounds, or blink a LED
>(color/pattern) or vibrate (in a pattern) as part of a notification and they
>sometimes do it in a way that indicates what type of notification it is, for
>instance "message arrived", or calendar alarm, clock alarm, etc. The list of
>types varies across different systems, but it is fixed in a given system, so that a
>consistent look and feel could be ensured across various applications.
>
>The notification API could provide for applications indicating what type of
>notification they request (e.g. message arrived). This applies both for web apps
>and system apps.
>
>The API could specify common notification types, and for enumerating /
>selecting the available notification types implemented on a particular system,
>both for web apps and system apps.
>
>The API may also provide for applications a way to request custom sounds, LED
>or vibration patterns for a given notification type. Based on a dynamic or static
>internal policy, the system may override these requests, and eventually notify
>the application about the condition.
>
>LED's may also be used for signalling there are unseen notifications, but this
>behaviour could be encapsulated by implementations, so no change required
>on the API.
>
>The API may also provide for applications a way to state preferences for how
>to display the notifications, e.g. a popup, system tray, ticker, or full screen. The
>system may override these, or show instead a dialog to the user for setting
>such options.
>
>Implementations should be able to synchronize graphical notifications and
>non-graphical (sound/beep/vibra/LED) alerts, to cover use cases when e.g.
>vibration starts together with the graphical notification, but sound should be
>delayed a few seconds.
>
>To me it looks like these could be NotificationOption extensions, either
>specified in the Web Notification API, or elsewhere.
>
>I would like to ask the Editors and the SysApps WG members whether do you
>see these use cases
>1) in scope for the Web Notification API,
>2) or rather as SysApps specific extensions,
>3) or belonging to other specification(s).
>
>If the first, then the question is whether would the Web Notifications WG
>accept contributions to the spec regarding the use cases above. In practical
>terms, would the WG accept new members at this point?

W3C members can join active WGs unless the charter has a specific limit on number of members.

>If the second, the question is how the SysApps group could define such
>extensions? Would that require charter mod?
>If the third, please advise which specifications would provide for the additional
>functionality, and how to synchronize them with the Web Notification API.
>
>You may also say these use cases are not important for standardization at the
>moment, and different platforms can proceed with implementations as they
>wish. Even in that case, please consider these use cases too for the API design,
>so that later extensions won't break the API.
>
>Best regards,
>Zoltan
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