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Re: SWEO-Information gathering - URL Change re. RDF Browser

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:47:09 +0200
Message-ID: <460CCE8D.2000206@w3.org>
To: kidehen@openlinksw.com, Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>
CC: public-sweo-ig@w3.org

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Kingsley, Leo,

I am in discussion with our system guys to see what is the best solution.

The issue coming up with

www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/information/browser

type of approach (or, alternatively, sweo.w3.org) is the issue of
persistence. W3C has a very strong policy on persistence and, if the
service is run elsewhere, we cannot necessarily secure it (Kingsley, no
offence!:-). But, as I say, I am still collecting opinions.

Another approach is to register www.sweo.org separately, eg, by GHANDI,
which would be administered by, say, the W3C SW Activity lead of the
time (ie, not by a private person...).

I should get back some response soon.

Ivan

Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> 
> Leo Sauermann wrote:
>> Ok,
>> we could also go for W3C uris, in the sweo space, and forward/redirect
>> to Kingsley's servers
>>
>> suggestions?
>> www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/information/browser
>> www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/information/syndication
>>
>> sweo.semanticweb.org/browser
>> sweo.semanticweb.org/syndication
> Leo,
> 
> Fine too.
> 
> But add:
> /data or /rdf for main portal page.
> 
> /sparql and /isparql for the SPARQL endpoints (as per earlier mail).
> 
> Once these are set up, just  notify me.
> 
> Kingsley
>>
>> best
>> Leo
>>
>> It was Benjamin Nowack who said at the right time 23.03.2007 10:55 the
>> following words:
>>> Hi,
>>> what about asking Stefan Decker for a sub-domain at semanticweb.org?
>>> Could simplify stable URIs quite
>>> a bit.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On 22.03.2007 20:06:13, Leo Sauermann wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Hey,
>>>> thats a good step towards the right direction...
>>>>
>>>> could you throw in a subdomain for SWEO?
>>>>
>>>> having a forward to this url:
>>>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/JS/rdfbrowser/index.html
>>>>
>>>>     
>>> >from a goodlookin SWEO url like this:
>>>  
>>>> http://sweo.openlinksw.com/rdfbrowser
>>>>
>>>> or this to register new URLs for syndication
>>>> http://sweo.openlinksw.com/syndication
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> (cool uris never die)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was Kingsley Idehen who said at the right time 21.03.2007 22:08
>>>> the following words:
>>>>    
>>>>> Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>> Danny Ayers wrote:
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> On 21/03/07, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>> Danny Ayers wrote:
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> On 21/03/07, Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kingsley,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ok, cool.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yould you setup the information gatherer then?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would guess it should do the following:
>>>>>>>>>> * a web interface with a simple form "enter your url & email
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> address,
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> confirm that the content is creative commons"
>>>>>>>>>> * a database storing the web URLs to crawl & e-mail address of
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> submitter
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> * a sparql endpoint for the data
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> One more little request (which may be covered by the sparql
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> endpoint)
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> - the whole dataset being made available as a gzipped dump,
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> the sources collection (email addresses are probably best left
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> out, or
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> better still sha1'd as FOAF properties).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This should make another useful dataset for the Linked Open Data
>>>>>>>>> effort, anyone experimenting with RDF renderers/browsers, and I
>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>> admit it's something I'd like to play with myself...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Danny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Danny,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Copy of a mail I sent earlier (don't know if you where on the
>>>>>>>> "reply
>>>>>>>> all" list):
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Thanks Kingsley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this means there will be a URI on which a transparent
>>>>>>> CONSTRUCT can
>>>>>>> be done, to get the whole graph of aggregated data, plus sources
>>>>>>> list..?
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>> Absolutely!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> Hmm, can Accept-encoding: gzip work on SPARQL endpoints I wonder ...
>>>>>>> (/me will rtfm later)
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>> Could be a nice addition to the Linking Open Data best practices
>>>>>> effort :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can certainly redirect to a WebDAV accessible .gz|.tgz
>>>>>> containing the compressed version of the RDF dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kingsley
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Danny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>         
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Our RDF Browser is now situated at  a more permanent location:
>>>>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/JS/rdfbrowser/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: This implies an internal upgrade of its status to full stand
>>>>> alone application within the OpenLink Ajax Toolkit (OAT) alongside:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Forms Designer (this is the form builder that contains lots of
>>>>> Data Bound controls supporting SQL, RDF, XML, Web Services based
>>>>> Data Sources)
>>>>> 2. DB Designer (for SQL at the current time)
>>>>> 3. SQL Query By Example
>>>>> 4. SPARQL Query by Example (currently at /isparql as per prior
>>>>> communications)
>>>>>
>>>>> The above have obvious directory names at:
>>>>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/JS/
>>>>>
>>>>> OAT Demo itself is at:
>>>>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/JS/demo/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>> -- 
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>>>>
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>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ____________________________________________________
>> DI Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann
>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
>> Trippstadter Strasse 122
>> P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +49 631 20575-116
>> D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
>> Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann@dfki.de
>>
>> Geschaeftsfuehrung:
>> Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
>> Dr. Walter Olthoff
>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
>> ____________________________________________________
>>   
> 
> 

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