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RE: Notes from today's call

From: Paul Walsh, Segala <paulwalsh@segala.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:26:30 -0000
To: "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org>, <alistair.duke@bt.com>
Cc: <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20070321182628.7B494122B92E4@postie1.hosting365.ie>

David Rooks also sent his regrets for this and next weeks meeting.

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> Paula and Danny sent their explicit regrets for the meeting.
> 
> According to my log, were also present Yue, Frank_Chum and Orri
> 
> Ivan
> 
> alistair.duke@bt.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here are the notes from today's call. Please let me know if you spot any
> > glaring errors.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> > <<21 Mar 2007 -SWEO-minutes.html>>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >   - DRAFT -
> >
> >
> >   Semantic Web Education and Outreach
> >
> >
> >     21 Mar 2007
> >
> >
> >     Attendees
> >
> > Present (from IRC Roster)
> >     Alistair Duke, Dunitschka, LeeF, RRSAgent, Zakim, bengee, ivan,
> >     kidehen, kjetilk, leobard, uldis, wing
> > Chair
> >     Susie
> > Scribe
> >     Alistair Duke
> >
> >
> >     Contents
> >
> >     * Topics <#agenda>
> >          1. Community Project <#item01>
> >          2. Information Gathering <#item02>
> >          3. Enterprise Survey <#item03>
> >          4. Use case updates <#item04>
> >          5. European Semantic Technologies Conference collateral
<#item05>
> >          6. SWEO logo <#item06>
> >          7. AOB <#item07>
> >     * Summary of Action Items <#ActionSummary>
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >       Community Project
> >
> > Kjetil - This is ticking along OK.
> >
> >
> >       Information Gathering
> >
> > Leo - Focussing on data format for sharing amongst providers Will take
> > any data available. Formats on wiki page - need to finish / stable.
> > Propose to Info Gathering task force to make 'How-to' . Plan is for
> > portal to show syndicated data. Need to think more about ideas before
> > going to group
> >
> > Kingsly - sent links to demos of views of data. Data in triple store
> > available by SPARQL queries. As long as the data is in RDF or perhaps
> > RSS or ATOM we can produce triples. Links added to IRC.
> >
> > Leo - Next step is to make system allowing people to syndicate data.
> > This should get around the legal problem
> >
> > Kingsly - should be no problem if the data is already on the web.
> >
> > Leo - Can not take data from IMDB
> >
> > Ivan - Need to discuss with legal people. It's not that simple. By
> > creating RDF data you may breach some rights.
> >
> > *ACTION:* Leo to write down issue and forward to Ivan who will send to
> > legal people in W3C. [recorded in #action01]
> >
> > Leo - push responsibility to providers - i.e. ensure data is available
> > as 'Creative Commons'.
> >
> > Susie - Lets resolve both approaches.
> >
> > Leo - Do we need to remodel wiki pages to help users? Who could build
> > page? Will target people who had signed up to help
> >
> > Kingsly - Will modify when I next look at it. So should everybody else -
> > it's a living document. If you put a tag against How-To then I and
> > others can contribute.
> >
> > *ACTION:* Leo to add tag and Kingsly to update by next week's call.
> > [recorded in #action02]
> >
> >
> >       Enterprise Survey
> >
> > Wing - Talked to Karen, tidied up results. Divided results according to
> > industry and role or responee. Sent to Karen. She's picking final
> > results. Data collection is finished. 1st draft will be available by
> > next meeting.
> >
> >
> >       Use Cases
> >
> > Susie - Encouraging people to do use cases. One from Oracle on website
> > and use of Siderean. Univ. Texas and Ordnance Survey have submitted.
> > Draft from Frank Chum at Chevron - seeking approval from Chevron, final
> > version from next week. Progress from Boeing.
> >
> > Ivan - making use cases available in HTML in common format. Not yet
> > ready do distribute until OK received from submitters. Which ones are
> > use cases and which are case studies? - Oracle, OS and Texas are
> > deployed hence case studies. BT and Agfa are not deployed hence use
> > cases. Segala - not sure where the word file is. Susie has provided
> > comments on a version. Agreement received on Oracle, OS and BT (almost).
> > Also tried to contact Data Consulting Services (India), Pfizer and UNFAO
> > who all use SW approach.
> >
> > Susie - Status on use case wiki page
> > (http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/) Ted Slater from Pfizer
> > (different group from Giles Day) but said it was too early.
> >
> > Ivan - Giles said yes and had approval. Need to decide when to go live.
> > Probably when we get to 10-12 use cases.
> >
> > Susie - one from Environmental Protection Agency is possible.
> >
> >
> >       ESTC - Collateral
> >
> > Dunja - Set up Wiki page. Idea of booklet, 20 pages. Prices on page.
> >
> > Ivan - 20 pages is a lot to do well between now and June. I was thinking
> > 2-3 pages. Who would pay the 4000 euro?
> >
> > Dunja - What information should be included in a flyer?
> >
> > Ivan - Should have pointers to FAQ. W3C team have produced fliers on Web
> > Services. Could send these as examples of what's been done - shows the
> > level of information required.
> >
> > Susie - could point to community projects if these are written up.
> >
> > *ACTION:* Kjetil to request cps to write up [recorded in #action03]
> >
> > Ivan - need to go through W3C approval process
> >
> > Dunja - Could we use wiki page to pool content for flier since away for
> > next three weeks?
> >
> > Ivan - we should get feedback from comms team first - hopefully before
> > Dunja leaves. Will send feedback to whole mailing list.
> >
> > *ACTION:* Dunja to update wiki page before Ivan sends to comms team
> > [recorded in #action04]
> >
> > Dunja - Flyer will cost 400-600 Euro.
> >
> >
> >       Logos
> >
> > Benjamin - Created variation based on feedback. Similar to shape of RDF
> > logo. This is posted on public wiki area. Feedback was to make it less
> > like a button. No 4 was liked so created no 6. Nos. 7 and 8 are lighter.
> > No one version that everyone likes
> > http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas
> >
> > Ivan - We could get input from outsiders. Can send to W3C communication
> > team. Likes no.6
> >
> >
> >       AOB
> >
> > Susie - Danny Ayers is reviewing FAQ. Susie to chase. Feedback only from
> > 1-2 people. Need more.
> >
> > Susie - Face to face. Registration web page is available. Only 2 people
> > are currently signed up. Please register even if unavailable.
> >
> > Kjetil - Joining Computas but will stay in SWEO.
> >
> >
> >     Summary of Action Items
> >
> > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Leo to write down issue and forward to Ivan who will
> > send to legal people in W3C [recorded in #action01]
> >
> > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Leo to add tag and Kingsly to update by next week's
> > call [recorded in #action02]
> >
> > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Kjetil to request cps to write up [recorded in
#action03]
> >
> > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Dunja to update wiki page before Ivan sends to comms
> > team [recorded in #action04]
> >
> >
> > [End of minutes]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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