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Re: Semantic Web Layer Cake Update Suggestion

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:37:00 -0500
Message-ID: <456F24CC.8060905@openlinksw.com>
CC: W3C SWEO IG <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>

Wilson, MD (Michael) wrote:
>  Kingsley
>
> I see what you're trying to do, but it does not have enough visual
> impact for the reader (e.g. me) to get it straight away.
>   
Understood, and I can address this once there is general acceptance of 
the visual :-)
>
> You need some clear link down from the UI - 
>
> maybe changing the UI from a horizontal box into a shape which comes
> down to each of the boxes in the layer cake ?
>
> Maybe adding a background colour which links the UI box to the layers
> below ?
>
> Sorry not to be more constructive.
>   
I found the response pretty constructive :-)

Kingsley
>
> Michael Wilson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kingsley Idehen [mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com] 
> Sent: 30 November 2006 18:21
> To: Wilson, MD (Michael)
> Cc: jeff.pollock@oracle.com; W3C SWEO IG
> Subject: Re: Semantic Web Layer Cake Update Suggestion
>
> Wilson, MD (Michael) wrote:
>   
>> Jeff
>>
>> The main problem with that diagram is the User Interface & 
>> Applications layer at the top which suggests that applications can 
>> only be built on top of the Trust layer, and not on top of each layer.
>>
>>   
>>     
> Jeff,
>
> I deliberately placed "Trust" Layer in such a way that you have a direct
> pass (i.e. space) between "Applications & Services" and Interchange
> Layer.
>
> Kingsley
>   
>> Michael Wilson
>> Manager, UK & Ireland Office of W3C
>> e-Science Centre
>> CCLRC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
>> Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK
>> http://www.w3c.rl.ac.uk/ukofficecontact.html
>> Fax: +44 1235 445831
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org
>> [mailto:public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Pollock
>> Sent: 30 November 2006 17:30
>> To: 'Kingsley Idehen'; 'W3C SWEO IG'
>> Subject: RE: Semantic Web Layer Cake Update Suggestion
>>
>>
>> Kingsley-
>>
>> The diagram Ivan sent here:
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/layerCake-4.png
>>
>> Implies to me that RDF needn't use XML.  Although I don't personally 
>> feel that the XML serialization of RDF is such a big market issue, 
>> real or perceived, the picture there seems to address the concern 
>> quite nicely.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> -Jeff-
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org
>> [mailto:public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:18 AM
>> To: 'W3C SWEO IG'
>> Subject: Semantic Web Layer Cake Update Suggestion
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> My initial attempt at a revised Cake is at: 
>> http://myopenlink.net:8890/DAV/home/kidehen/gallery/my_photos/Semantic
>> _W
>> eb_S
>> tack_Rev1.png
>>
>> The focus right now is fixing the XML placement issues such that RDF 
>> the Data Model and its optional XML serialization format are distinct.
>>
>> I have also added a Data Provider / Data Source layer since the 
>> URI/IRIs are "Resource Identifiers" for  Data which has to come from 
>> somewhere
>> :-)
>>
>>   
>>     
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