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Re: [MM] Timing of Mike & Libby's review

From: RaphaŽl Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:05:46 +0200
Message-ID: <4360C29A.895A3B44@cwi.nl>
To: "Uschold, Michael F" <michael.f.uschold@boeing.com>
CC: Jacco van Ossenbruggen <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl>, Libby Miller <libby@asemantics.com>, swbp <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>

Dear Mike,

> Yes, I will. I couldn't stop myself from having a peak at the draft as
> of Friday, Here are a few comments:

Thanks for your advanced comments. You will find inline some answers to
these remarks.
Please note that the working draft [1] should be ready for review on
Thursday, 27th of October (today).

> You make a very bold claim:
> "The best solution to this problem covering almost all the present and
> future uses of the content is the description and archiving of each
> photo with the aid of a tool providing a semantic metadata structure
> using the Semantic Web technologies "

You were right and this claim has been removed. We talk now about possible
solutions, giving illustration and concrete examples. We try to discuss also
the various possibilities if any.

> The best solution for most people today, is to use any of the myriad of
> photo organization tools out there from the simple and free ones, to the
> high end pro-oriented ones.  You don't even mention those.

We have addressed this comment in the beginning of section 4.

> Obviously, this note does not address users of these tools, but rather
> developers.  I'm a serious photographer drowning in over 20,000 slides
> and another few thousand jpegs. I recognized 15 years ago that I really
> needed an ontology to categorize them all. I'm still waiting for tools
> to support this.
> I would like to see this document specifically target developers of
> photo organizing software for my own selfish reasons, I want to have
> semantically-enabled tools!

We all want that, at least in this group :-)

> I would love to see a new wave of photo-organization tools with semantic
> tagging and search. By far the richest one around, of the affordable
> variety is: Imatch http://www.photools.com/ which has a remarkably rich
> feature set.
> See: http://www.urban75.org/tech/imatch.html for a [random and possibly
> dated] review.
> I don't know that such tools could be affordably created for a mass
> market, but they might work for the pro-sumer and pro markets. One
> potential benefit in the mass market is for people to share their
> ontologies using OWL mapping tools. I wish I got paid to do this stuff
> applied to photography.

Discussion of these tools are out of scope at this moment. However we could
discuss at the f2f if and how we should target mass
market tool makers to make their products Semantic Web enabled.

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html



RaphaŽl Troncy
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