- From: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net>
- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:59:05 +0100 (CET)
- To: "SVG IG List" <public-svg-ig@w3.org>
yeah - its a sad story if you browse the ODF spec. They have chosen some random SVG elements and added SVG attributes to their own elements instead of re-using and extending existing SVG elements. They should have taken the approach Inkscape had taken and extend SVG with their own namespace - even creating new elements if necessary or adding them in foreignElements as Jeff suggested. I wonder if it is still possible to correct this mis-behavior - they probably claim now that there are millions of ODF documents out there that have to be compatible ;-( They should have done it right from the beginning on. I wonder what IBM thinks of this apparent mis-use of XML within ODF - since IBM seems to be a big ODF supporter ... Andreas On Thu, February 26, 2009 1:41 pm, Jeff Schiller wrote: > Agreed. Here was one brief discussion I had with an OpenOffice person > at Sun two years ago: > > http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/what_about_svg#comment13 > > This person seemed reluctant to the idea of taking the svg:rect > element and extending that - they preferred that ODF had its own > draw:rect element. > > It kind of takes some of the wind out of the whole ODF-uses-SVG and > OOXML-is-evil argument as this person acknowledges: > > http://idippedut.dk/post/2008/01/Embrace-and-extend---SVG-revisited.aspx > > Regards, > Jeff > > On 2/26/09, Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com> wrote: >> On Feb 25, 2009, at 22:56 , Andreas Neumann wrote: >> >> > The Oasis people are discussing new features in ODF "Next". ODF 1.1 >> and >> 1.2 already have certain subsets of SVG in its file format (see >> http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.1/OS/OpenDocument-v1.1.pdf) >> - grep for SVG (mainly in attributes not in elements ;-() ODF also uses >> the >> SVG path syntax and many other SVG attributes. >> > >> >> Do you think there's a chance of getting them to stop using SVG in a >> way I >> can only describe as pretty much completely wrong? They're taking SVG >> attributes and putting them in the SVG namespace, even though the SVG >> spec >> never defines those. It's not exactly a great example of XML reuse. >> >> -- >> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ >> Feel like hiring me? Go to http://robineko.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Andreas Neumann http://www.carto.net/neumann/ http://www.svgopen.org/
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