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Re: ACTION-3 comparing as:Activity || schema:Action

From: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:36:24 +0200
Message-ID: <5414E308.5030106@wwelves.org>
To: public-socialweb@w3.org
CC: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>, Sam Goto <goto@google.com>, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>, Ruben Verborgh <ruben.verborgh@ugent.be>
I cc Sam Goto, Dan Brickley and Ruben Verborgh who don't have write
access to this list. And please let's try to <snip> text we reply to
nicely :)

*Please let me know if someone doesn't like such cc heavy communication
pattern!*

On 09/13/2014 10:57 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
> Now I want to capture few points from recent conversation over mailing
> lists + cc but in RERO[1] spirit I send in this part :)
I managed to start on that
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Vocabulary_Comparison#Comparing_Activity_Streams_.2F_Schema.org_.2F_Hydra

Looking at second quote. I find this feedback from Markus(Hydra)
possibly *fundamental* to avoid confusion:

<blockquote>

  Hydra follows a slightly different approach in that it
  describes the actions/operations supported by a *web resource*
  and not by an *abstract thing*.

</blockquote>

To my (eP back!) understanding, currently Schema.org mixes both and IMO
in possibly confusing way:

* UpdateAction
  * AddAction
    * InsertAction
    * AppendAction
    * PrependAction
 * DeleteAction
 * ReplaceAction

which seem like actions/operations supported by *web resource*, while

* CreateAction <--!
  * CookAction
  * DrawAction
  * FilmAction
  * PaintAction
  * PhotographAction
  * WriteAction

* ConsumeAction
  * DrinkAction
  * EatAction
  * InstallAction
  * ListenAction
  * ReadAction <--!!
  * UseAction
    * WearAction
  * ViewAction
  * WatchAction


look actions/operations like supported by *abstract thing* :)

I must admit not taking time yet to study LDP, but I guess it may focus
exclusively on actions/operations on *web resources*?

Maybe use of both, *Operation* and *Action*, could draw more intuitive
distinction.

Thanks for taking your time to read this long-ish update!
Received on Sunday, 14 September 2014 00:38:41 UTC

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