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Re: social new full set ( was: RE: Bassetti slides for AC meeting)

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 06:43:03 +0200
Message-ID: <4FB08D57.2030206@w3.org>
To: public-socialweb@w3.org, Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
On 05/12/2012 10:45 PM, Jeff Jaffe wrote:
> Ann,
> Thanks for putting this all together.  I think you've done an amazing 
> job at integrating all the input.  I hope we get through the slides 
> quickly enough so we can actually have some discussion!
> I have a few suggestions, which I will insert into email rather than 
> change the slides so that way we can have a single editor (you) for now.
> 1. As you go through your slides, we can easily get lost in optimizing 
> the block diagram in the meeting.  I think this would be a distraction 
> in a large meeting.  My recommendation is to use your slides to drive 
> the following discussion:
>   * We are not accepting input on the block diagram in real time.  If
>     people have suggestions they can send email or join the next call
>     on the 21st of May.
>   * To us, the block diagram is suggestive of potential areas of
>     standardization (slide 17 is a really nice illustration of that). 
>     If the block diagram stimulates people to tee up proposals for the
>     task force to look at in our May-July period, people should feel
>     free to stand up and say so.  (I would be happy to "man" a flip
>     chart and record ideas while you present).
Here's my input:

1) I would just choose on the block diagrams and go through it on a 
high-level, with no input taken. So choose best-merger of diagrams on 
slides 9-16.

2) As for other slides, please remove my name from Slide 24 and replace 
it with "Jeff Jaffe" as I won't be at the AC.

3) Second, please remove my hand-drawn diagram on Slide 28, as it is 
superceded by diagram on Slide 29.

4) The image on Slide 29 is wrong. Please replace the SVG here, which 
correctly labels all the arrows:

A PNG version is probably easier to cut-and-paste in:


5) In the description of the use-case, it may be useful to separate the 
"federation" from the "browser" flow. The diagram has as its first 
components a publish-subscribe "federation" flow.

So put this bullet point *before* text above Slide 26, perhaps rather 
than first or second bullets (although I'd prefer this to be in additon 

"Sites who want to be part of a standardized social web can share social 
data "in near real-time" via server-to-server federation but many sites 
do not."


> If you agree, you may want to establish these ground rules in the 
> slides themselves; or you can say so orally.
> 2. Slide 22 Basis set.  In my basis set email, I illustrated the 
> notion with a straw-man basis set and scenarios.  I'm not sure if you 
> felt this would not be helpful (which would be fine), or if you didn't 
> see the email (in which case you might want to include the strawman).
> 3. Slides 28 and 29 are replaced by Slide 30.  In the current version, 
> for some reason I can't launch the page from the ppt.  Maybe we should 
> just embed the picture as you've done for the current slide 29.
> Thanks.
> Jeff
> On 5/12/2012 6:53 AM, Bassetti, Ann wrote:
>> Hi Everyone --
>> The attached set of slides seeks to incorporate all contributions I 
>> have seen to date.I tried to put everything into a similar style, 
>> with the exception of the pages on which the diagrams were too big to 
>> fit.I hope I have accurately represented all the contributions.
>> Jeff:I'm not sure that I put Harry's and Doug Schepers' diagrams in 
>> the place you would want them.Please check!
>> Steve Holbrook:There is a placeholder for your slides to be inserted.
>> Feedback welcome!
>> -- Ann
>> *From:*Jeff Jaffe [mailto:jeff@w3.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:48 PM
>> *To:* Bassetti, Ann
>> *Cc:* public-socialweb@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Bassetti slides for AC meeting
>> On 5/9/2012 4:26 PM, Bassetti, Ann wrote:
>> Here is my draft of how I would present our work on the diagrams, 
>> etc, at the upcoming AC meeting.Feedback welcome!
>> -- Ann
>> Thanks, Ann that looks good.
>> Meanwhile I caught up with Harry.  You'll all recall that he was 
>> going to make some initial recommendations on standardization.  We 
>> agreed that they should be first socialized with the task force.
>> So, attached is the integrated slide set for our task force for the 
>> AC meeting.   It has the boilerplate outline.  It has placeholders 
>> for Ann's slides and Steve's slides.  And in slides 6-9 it has a 
>> draft of the initial ideas for standardization.
>> Comments are welcome.
>> Jeff
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