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Re: state of the art

From: David Karger <karger@mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:33:01 -0400
Message-ID: <4A4CC51D.1000106@mit.edu>
To: "Michael Lang(Jr.)" <michaelallenlang@gmail.com>
CC: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>, Tim rdf <timrdf@gmail.com>, Andreas Harth <andreas.harth@deri.org>, public-semweb-ui@w3.org
I would like to understand the requirements you are seeking to meet.  If
you just want to collect things, would a semantic mediawiki serve?  For
example, we have a collection of uses of SIMILE project tools being
hosted in SMW:
http://projects.csail.mit.edu/wibit/wiki/index.php?title=SimileResources .

Michael Lang(Jr.) wrote:
> Leo,
>
> Can you clarify what you mean by saying Twine is "closed"?  I have
> trouble understanding how people in this community use the terms
> "open" and "closed" with respect to tools.
>
> Mike Lang
>
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> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Paola Di Maio
> <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com <mailto:paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for keeping up the discussion
>
>     I agree that twine may not be 'open' and ideal, however basically
>     anyone can add things to twine, while the ESW I am not sure we can
>     all edit? (sorry if I am out of date on developments there).
>
>     Also, does anyone else thinks that the GUI of the page below could
>     be improved and wonder if that tells something :
>
>
>      http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebUsability
>
>
>     Also, ideally,  shouldnt we all be able to publish thing where we
>     favour, and then link them?
>
>     do we need an ontology of semantic web usability expressed in RDF?
>     or something?
>
>     I would like to link our workshop stuff papers, presentations etc)
>     from ASWC in Bangkok, too
>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Leo Sauermann
>     <leo.sauermann@dfki.de <mailto:leo.sauermann@dfki.de>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         twine is closed, I would rather propose to use the ESW wiki by
>         W3C.
>
>         I can't contribute nor coordinate this the next months, I just
>         moved to vienna
>         and need to get internet and other things....
>
>         best
>         Leo
>
>         It was Tim rdf who said at the right time 27.06.2009 00:30 the
>         following words:
>>         Leo,
>>
>>         I am very much interested in the objectives you outline and
>>         would like to contribute. I will follow the additions to the
>>         wiki.
>>
>>         I created two Twines for Semantic Web Usability a while ago,
>>         but have not found anyone interested in the topic. Please
>>         feel free to tuck things there as well -- perhaps we could
>>         get some critical mass. Within a twine, we can comment on
>>         each artifact we post.
>>
>>         http://www.twine.com/twine/116nk1j23-c11/semantic-web-user-interfaces
>>
>>         http://www.twine.com/twine/116nlm5b5-c21/semantic-web-user-interaction
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Tim Lebo
>>
>>
>>
>>             I like the idea of a collection of state-of-the-art, and
>>             will contribute, but only if I can edit myself and am
>>             sure that the state-of-the-art will be there the next
>>             years in public domain.
>>             The place where I am sure that it will remain open, and
>>             which is already the place where all other discussions
>>             about the Semantic Web happen, is the ESW wiki.
>>             I added a page here for you:
>>              http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebUsability
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>             Rather, take exsiting tools and compare them against the
>>             vision -
>>              can your grandma find a doctor in her neighbourhood that
>>             will accept her Health Insurance and treat her illness?
>>             (This was the guiding example of "The Semantic Web",
>>             2001, Timbl et al)
>>             so - can facetted browisng help?
>>             can xy help?
>>
>>             etc.
>>
>>             best
>>             Leo
>>
>>             I would also humbly suggest to look at the usability
>>             concerns that are addressed in KDE 4.0, which has an RDF
>>             based metadata layer.
>>             In our NEPOMUK project we are currently working on the
>>             biggest deployment of Semantic Web technology (especially
>>             RDF) ever, reaching half of all linux users... much
>>             usability to study there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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