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Re: Cross Language with topic maps [was Re: 答复: KB note]

From: Kei Cheung <kei.cheung@yale.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:25:01 -0400
To: eric neumann <ekneumann@gmail.com>
Cc: Jack Park <jack.park@sri.com>, w3c semweb hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, kc28@email.med.yale.edu, Tim Clark <twclark@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Message-id: <483DBF9D.5030000@yale.edu>

Hi Eric et al,

I'm glad that umls, topic map, ... were mentioned. We have to do more 
than literal translation or linguistics. It's semantics!

Traditional Chinese medicine embodies rich dialectical thought, such as 
that of the holistic connections and the unity of yin and yang. It deals 
with many facets of human anatomy and physiology: 臟腑 zang-fu (organs), 
穴 meridians (main and collateral channels), 氣 qi (vital energy), 血 
blood, *靜 *jing (essence of life), body fluid, the inside and outside 
of the body, as well as the connections between the whole and the parts.

I wonder if there is a Chinese counterpart of umls that have semantic 
correspondence to the English umls. Topic map is also interesting. I 
also wonder if there is a direct mapping between topic map and semantic 
web (rdf/owl) ....

I agree that we should narrow the scope of our problem a little bit. 
Otherwise, things tend to fall apart if we try to be too ambitious. I 
hope we can start thinking more about this Huperzine use case, for 
example. I also hope such a use case is holistic in the sense that it is 
both scientifically and technologically interesting.

Thanks,

-Kei

eric neumann wrote:
> Why not simply use to following trick on top of universal symbols?
>
> <umls:male 
> rdfs:label="male" lang="en"
> rdfs:label="Mann" lang="ge"
> rdfs:label="mâle" lang="fr"
> rdfs:label="男性" lang="zh-Hans"
> ...
> >
>
> Eric
>
> 2008/5/28 Jack Park <jack.park@sri.com <mailto:jack.park@sri.com>>:
>
>
>     In cross-language data integration, it may be a simple matter of
>     using a
>     multitude of language-scoped labels in an ontology. Another approach
>     that has been mentioned on this list many moons back by the late Bill
>     Bugg was that of applying topic maps to the federation of
>     heterogeneous
>     resources, including disparate ontologies that don't easily merge, and
>     data sets. Bill was referring to some of my work. Topic maps
>     provide the
>     ability to apply as many different names to some entity as
>     necessary for
>     all participants to successfully locate what they seek. At the same
>     time, topic maps can federate each entity with external comments,
>     dialogues (such as this email message), bookmarks (tags) and
>     relationships with other entities.
>
>     Jack
>
>     Xiaoshu Wang wrote:
>     > Huajun Chen@Zhejiang University wrote:
>     >> Another challenge is cross-language data integration, which is
>     actually a
>     >> job that ontology should do.
>     >>
>     > I honestly disagree. Ontology is about the semantics of *being*
>     but that
>     > of symbols. It doesn't matter if how "gene" is called, named, or
>     > written. It symbolize the same objective entities. A URI such as
>     > http://www.example.com is not written in English. It is just a
>     bunch of
>     > symbols. Let's not introduce linguistic issues into data
>     integration,
>     > which already have a lot of issues.
>     >
>     > Xiaoshu Wang
>     >> Best wishes, huajun
>     >>
>     >> -----邮件原件-----
>     >> 发件人: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org
>     <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org>
>     >> [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org
>     <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org>] 代表 Matthias Samwald
>     >> 发送时间: 2008年5月26日 21:22
>     >> 收件人: kc28@email.med.yale.edu
>     <mailto:kc28@email.med.yale.edu>; Tim Clark
>     >> 抄送: M. Scott Marshall; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
>     <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
>     >> 主题: Re: KB note
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> Speaking of national boundaries, I wonder if alternative
>     medicine (e.g.,
>     >>> herbal
>     >>> medicine) would also be of interest to this community. For
>     example,
>     >>> Huperzine
>     >>> is a drug derived from the herb Huperzia serrata. I also
>     wonder if there
>     >>> are
>     >>> hypotheses regarding the study of herbs in the possible
>     treatment of
>     >>> neurological diseases.
>     >>>
>     >> I would also be very motivated to help in this kind of research.
>     >> Specifically, Huperzine A would be a very interesting use-case
>     for our
>     >> developments. It is a herbal compound with a history in folk
>     medicine and is
>     >>
>     >> available OTC in most countries, yet it rivals the effectiveness of
>     >> currently leading Alzheimer medications such as Tacrine. It
>     also has a dual
>     >> mode of action that does not only involve acetylcholinesterase
>     inhibition,
>     >> but also modulation of the NMDA receptor. The implications of
>     this for the
>     >> treatment of Alzheimer's are still a rather hot topic.
>     >>
>     >> The integration of knowledge from traditional medicine, plant
>     >> taxonomy/phylogeny/biochemistry and receptor binding databases
>     (PDSP Ki
>     >> database, IUPHAR) could lead to the identification of some
>     extremely novel
>     >> therapeutic strategies. Finding candidate molecules in such a
>     way might be
>     >> much more effective than weeding through libraries of compounds
>     generated by
>     >>
>     >> combinatorial synthesis etc. The challenge lies in the
>     integration of some
>     >> very heterogenous datasets that come from vastly different
>     disciplines,
>     >> which is exactly the field of research where Semantic Web
>     technologies are
>     >> most effective.
>     >>
>     >> I guess the major problem for this kind of research is that
>     there are no
>     >> funding programmes that span China, the US and Asia...
>     >>
>     >> Cheers,
>     >> Matthias Samwald
>     >>
>     >> DERI Galway, Ireland // Semantic Web Company, Austria
>     >> http://www.deri.ie/
>     >> http://www.semantic-web.at/
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>
>
>
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