Re: rdfs:class versus owl:class in SOSA-Core

> Since owl:Class rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Class, then any owl class is also 
> an rdfs class. However, not every rdfs class is an owl class.

Yes, at least for OWL1.


On 11/08/2016 09:58 PM, Joshua Lieberman wrote:
> Since owl:Class rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Class, then any owl class is also 
> an rdfs class. However, not every rdfs class is an owl class.
>
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au 
>> <mailto:rob@metalinkage.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong here:
>>
>>
>> :myClass a owl:Class, rdfs:Class
>>
>> is the same as
>>
>> :myClass a owl:Class
>>
>> if you are using OWL reasoning.
>>
>> If you are using RDFS reasoning (and tools like RDF4J support this) - 
>> then these statements are not the same - and only the first one helps 
>> you with any RDFS reasoning.
>>
>> So why cant we just use the first form?
>>
>> The principle would be that the "core" would not _require_ OWL 
>> reasoning to provide a RDFS model. It doenst mean we don't model in 
>> OWL, just that we take on the responsibility of materialising OWL 
>> entailments sufficient to allow any RDFS entailments. (Thats what I 
>> mean about a "contract" with the user - being explicit about what 
>> entailments are theer responsibility
>>
>>
>> Note that is we state:
>>
>> :myClass a rdfs:Class
>>
>> and say:
>> :myClass owl:equivalentClass eg:yourClass
>>
>> then if you use OWL reasoning you get
>>
>> :myClass a owl:Class, rdfs:Class
>>
>> because
>> owl:equivalentClass rdfs:domain owl:Class
>> owl:equivalentClass rdfs:range owl:Class
>>
>> Therefore, if you don't explicitly state its an owl:Class you can 
>> still do OWL reasoning and you have lost nothing - but if you don't 
>> explicity state its and RDFS class then you wont get the full RDFS 
>> expressible semantics  without OWL reasoning.
>>
>> statements such as owl:inverseOf are just documentation for RDFS 
>> interpretations, and perhaps "do no harm"?
>>
>> am I missing something here?
>>
>> note that we can then have sosa-owl-dl  and other OWL flavours as 
>> vertical modules that require OWL reasoning to be fully understood.
>>
>> Rob Atkinson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 at 10:01 Krzysztof Janowicz <jano@geog.ucsb.edu 
>> <mailto:jano@geog.ucsb.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Sorry for being so picky about this during our meeting but I do
>>     not want us to take decisions that have consequences that we can
>>     not yet foresee.
>>
>>     To the best of my knowledge (and please correct me if I am wrong):
>>
>>     Under the semantics of OWL1, rdfs:class and owl:class are only
>>     equivalent for OWL-Full. For OWL-DL (and OWL-Lite) owl:class is a
>>     subclass of rdfs:class.
>>
>>     This means that every valid document in OWL will be a valid
>>     document in RDFS, however *not* every rdfs:class is an owl:class.
>>     I do not want us to end up in OWL-Full because of this.
>>
>>     For OWL2, I found this: 'owl:Class rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Class . "
>>     (https://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-rdf-based-semantics/). Things may be
>>     more complicated here due to OWL2 punning and they may well turn
>>     out to be equivalent, I will check this later.
>>
>>     If we decide to restrict ourself to only using RDFS for
>>     SOSA-core, and I am not in favor of this, then we may have to go
>>     with rdfs:class. However, we have not yet taken this decision and
>>     have also not discussed which axioms and language to use for SSN.
>>     As Sosa-core and SSN will be aligned, this may have more
>>     consequences that we should consider. It also seems like many of
>>     us are in favor of using inverseOf, so we would be using OWL (and
>>     its formal semantics) anyway. Note that this does not do any harm
>>     to an RDFS-only tool/user as for those the inverseOf axiom will
>>     simply have no formal semantics. Still all other triples that use
>>     both relations will still be just fine.
>>
>>     Given the subclasssing, I do not see any problems using
>>     owl:class, but we may accidentally end up in OWL-full or with
>>     being incompatible to the standards if we opt for rdfs:class.
>>     Again, I am happy to be corrected. At least, I do not see harm in
>>     simply using owl:class.
>>
>>     Finally, and from very pragmatic point of view: ontologies that
>>     are under very heavy use such as the DBpedia ontology simply use
>>     owl:class and I have not yet seen any issues or complaints about
>>     that. See, for example, http://dbpedia.org/ontology/City
>>     "dbo:City    rdf:type    owl:Class ." The same is true for the
>>     goodrelations ontology and so forth (but I admit that this is due
>>     to the more complex axiomatization they use).
>>
>>     I hope this will start a productive discussion.
>>
>>     Thanks for reading,
>>     Krzysztof
>>
>>
>


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