Re: schema-course-extend: Organizations providing and offering course

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:
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>
> Richard has suggested using the existing  offeredBy [2] property to
> indicate who is making the course available.
> "Both Course and CourseInstance inherit the offers property which would be
> used to identify individual Offer(s).  Offer has the offeredBy property to
> reference the offering organisation/institution." [
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-schema-course-extend/2016May/0006.html
> RJW]
>
> That seems sound, but I do have a concern that it ends up being quite
> complex, is anyone going to argue for the simpler option of extending the
> range of offeredBy so that it can be used on Course & CourseInstance
> directly?
>

Phil,I think you meant extending the domain and not the range of offeredBy?
A legitimate, useful argument can be made for extending the domain of
offeredBy to include Course. An assertion that a Course is offeredBy a
particular Organization or set of Organizations would be useful without
reference to a particular Offer. I have some difficulty with such an
extension to CourseInstance because it is, in a way, a particular offer
(lower case).

>
>
> Neither schema.org/offeredBy nor schema.org/creator fully cover what it
> means for an organization to provide a course. I propose a new property to
> cover this:
>
> provider, a property of Course with expect range Organization, being the
> Organization which is responsible for providing the educational input for
> the course, e.g. providing content, educational events, assessments,
> accreditation etc.
>

Would a provider property solve the "endorsed" aspect of provenance noted.

>
>
> I have started a wiki page for this requirement [3] and will work up an
> example or two for it.
>
>
> Phil
>
> 1.
> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases#use_case_1.4_refining_UC1_by_provenance
> 2. http://schema.org/offeredBy
> 3.
> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Organizations_providing_and_offering_course
>
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