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RE: [RIF-Abridge PS] ACTION-569

From: Stella Mitchell <cleo@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:08:10 -0400
To: "Boley, Harold" <Harold.Boley@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
Cc: "Adrian Paschke" <adrian.paschke@biotec.tu-dresden.de>, "Hassan Ait-Kaci" <hak@ilog.com>, public-rif-wg@w3.org, public-rif-wg-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFFCC9307B.1D842363-ON852574B7.0052DF70-852574B7.00532585@us.ibm.com>
Since the normative version of the test case to be used when 
running tests is XML, for testing purposes it doesn't matter how we 
get to that format.

But personally, for a human readable version of the test, I find it more
useful to have it in a stable syntax defined in the recommendation. Plus,
aren't implementers of BLD going to have to be very familiar with the PS 
since  the semantics is defined in terms of it, and the translation to 
XML,
so won't they want to have their familiarity and understanding of the PS 
reinfored by seeing examples of it? I guess we have the possibility of
providing multiple non-normative versions of the test cases, like
OWL does.

Stella





"Boley, Harold" <Harold.Boley@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> 
Sent by: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org
09/01/2008 09:23 AM

To
"Hassan Ait-Kaci" <hak@ilog.com>, "Adrian Paschke" 
<adrian.paschke@biotec.tu-dresden.de>, <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
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Subject
RE: [RIF-Abridge PS] ACTION-569






Hi Hassan,
 
In the 26 Aug telecon we only decided to create a page for the *abridged* 
syntax.
Cf. ACTION: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/569
 
* The APS is not normative but just a compact notation,
which should become dialect-independent,
as needed, e.g., for UCR and the test cases.
* The APS is an optional addition only.
* The APS evolution can thus follow a different time-line,
so should be decoupled from the evolution of the other documents.
 
The PS, on the other hand, is an official part of documents such as BLD 
(in LC),
FLD, and Core. Each of these documents should stay independent from APS.
 
Best,
Harold
 

From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-rif-wg-request@w3.org] 
On Behalf Of Hassan Ait-Kaci
Sent: September 1, 2008 9:13 AM
To: Adrian Paschke; public-rif-wg@w3.org
Subject: RE: [RIF-Abridge PS] ACTION-569 

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for creating this page. Why not also include *all* PS syntactic 
rules
and conventions, whether abridged or not, explicitly including all the 
rules
imported from other W3C WG's documents (as used by Axel's EBNF rules for 
the
APS)? It'd be nice not to have to go back and forth between 4 or 5 
documents
in order to have the whole picture.

Thank you.

-hak
--
Hassan At-Kaci  *  ILOG, Inc. - Product Division R&D
http://koala.ilog.fr/wiki/bin/view/Main/HassanAitKaci



-----Original Message-----
From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org on behalf of Adrian Paschke
Sent: Mon 9/1/2008 11:01 AM
To: public-rif-wg@w3.org
Subject: [RIF-Abridge PS] ACTION-569



I have created a page to document the abridged presentation syntax

http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/APS

- Adrian
Received on Monday, 1 September 2008 15:08:55 GMT

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