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Re: moving TRs to MediaWiki

From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:49:35 -0500
To: kifer@cs.sunysb.edu (Michael Kifer)
Cc: public-rif-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <30647.1203191375@ubuhebe>


> it looks good, but I did not understand which color-coded diffs you are
> talking about.

If you look to the right of the "Previous Version" URL, near the top of 
  http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/draft/ED-rif-bld-20080215/
and you should see a link called "color-coded diff".

> Apart from the little problems that you mentioned, I noticed that the new
> wiki contains all the MoinMoin files (including references, appendix) in
> one wiki file. Is it how it is supposed to be in Mediawiki?

Yes.  MediaWiki has no problem with big files or concurrent editing, and
it has "[edit]" links by each heading to allow editing of just that
section.

By the way, there are lots of options other than It's All Text! for
mediawiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_editor_support

I currently have Preferences/Editing/UseExternalEditorByDefault set,
with some script which runs emacs, though I can't figure out right now
how I set it up.  (But it does allow me to stay in emacs while I save
versions.)

     -- Sandro



> > I believe I have completed the script [1] to convert TR-style documents
> > from MoinMoin to MediaWiki.
> > 
> > For example:
> >    http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/draft/ED-rif-bld-20080214/
> > was generated by wiki-tr from the MoinMoin page:
> >    http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/BLD
> > 
> > ... and
> >    http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/draft/ED-rif-bld-20080215/
> > was generated by wikisnapper [2] from the MediaWiki page:
> >    http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Conversion-test
> > 
> > If you look at the "color coded diff" on the second (0215) page, you'll
> > see a few differences:
> > 
> >    * A comma after the editor's names.   We may want to manually remove
> >      the parens and make the editor's names links.
> >    * Some "Please Comment By" boilerplate text
> >    * The section numbering does not skip levels.   Instead of
> >      having "2.0.1" (and no "2.1." anything) we now have "2.1".  I
> >      expect this is a bug-fix.
> >    * The Table-of-Contents format is slightly different, eg without
> >      trailing periods on numbers.   
> >    * There are a few changes in non-breaking whitespace, none of
> >      which I think is a problem (but it shows up on the diff)
> >    * The URLs in the Reference are not all turned into links any
> >      more; I believe the new behavior is correct.
> > 
> > (For this diff I cheated and manually expanded &quot; and &gt; in the
> > new version before running the diff, since mediawiki outputs them.)
> > 
> > This turned out to be quite hairy!  See [1] if you're curious.
> > 
> > Editors -- please look that Conversion-test page and see if it looks
> > okay and if you're ready for us to move to MediaWiki.  My script for
> > publishing from MediaWiki (wikisnapper [2]) automates a lot more of
> > publishing than wiki-tr did, so I want to use it for the next round.  My
> > inclination is to switch before the F2F, so we can more easily iron out
> > any difficulties in the conversion, but I don't want to complicated
> > things for the editors, either.
> > 
> > I had talked at one point about being able to use HTML as the MediaWiki
> > source format.  That turned out not to work right (the wiki doesn't see
> > section headings inside an html-block), so we have what we have, which
> > is wiki markup plus bits of safe-HTML as needed.
> > 
> > MediaWiki formatting:
> >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet
> >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
> >      
> > Comments?
> > 
> >      -- Sandro
> > 
> > [1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2007/groupdev/tr-to-mediawiki.sh
> > [2] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2007/groupdev/wikisnapper.py
> > 
> > 
> 
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