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Re: CURIE proposal ...

From: Jos de Bruijn <debruijn@inf.unibz.it>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:38:25 +0200
Message-ID: <480DB211.7050603@inf.unibz.it>
To: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@deri.org>
CC: "Public-Rif-Wg (E-mail)" <public-rif-wg@w3.org>

Axel Polleres wrote:
> Jos de Bruijn wrote:
>> I think we should have a shortcut mechanism for IRIs in the 
>> presentation syntax, since they are the most common kind of identifier 
>> used in the language.
>> I also think that we only need to have *one* mechanism for that.
>> We do not need to define a completely new parsable presentation 
>> syntax.  I also do not think we need to have a general shortcut 
>> mechanism in the presentation syntax.  For one thing, we don't have 
>> much time.
>> Therefore, I would suggest to adopt the following suggestions by Axel:
>>> 1) We use UNQUOTED prefix:ncname to denote CURIEs which expand to 
>>  > 4) For symbol space IRIs (i.e. IRIs after the ^^) we only allow eithr
>>  > the unquoted prefix:ncname writing or the angle bracketted name.
> that is basically the current status. And I was only suggesting some 
> slight syntactic sugar to make things more readable.
> a) a prefix definition mechanism (adopted 1:1 from SPARQL, i.e. nothing 
> new)

yes, we definitely need something like that, but why adopt the one from 
SPARQL and not the one from Turtle?.

> b) (unquoted) curies are also allowed for the first part

I would disallow this, because confusion might arise as to the 
difference between "a:b"^^bla and a:b^^bla.

> c) a stand-alone CURIE a:b is a shortcut for "the expanded IRI for a:b"^^rif:iri


> d) angle brackets ( <iri> )serve as shortcut for "iri"^^rif:iri or if 

This seems to me as defining too many shortcuts.  I think we should have 
just one shortcut mechanism for IRIs, namely CURIEs, not another one.

> you want to write a full iri as symspace 
> ("iri"^^<http://www.w3.org/2007/rif#iri>)

This does make sense to me.

>> i.e.,
>> mailto:chris = "http://....#chris"^^rif:iri = 
>> "http://....#chris"^^http://.....#iri
>> CURIES should *not* be allowed as the first part of a constant name, 
>> i.e., my:curie^^rif:iri should not be allowed.
> why? if unquoted, I don't see any problem with allowing curies there, 
> although I can live without b) if you buy in c)

See above.

Best, Jos

> Axel

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