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<ChrisW> Scribenick: Hassan
<ChrisW> Scribe: Hassan Ait-Kaci
Next week telecon will occur at "different" times (in the US set forward 1 hour)
In Europe, meetings will start 1 hour later for two weeks (next, and next to next)
No objections to accepting minutes
<ChrisW> RESOLUTION: accept Feb 20 telecon minutes
F2F6 meeting discussion: 1 proposal from DERI (in Innsbruck colocated with ESWS)
Christian: has problems connecting (port should be 6665)
Will decide location of F2F6 on March 20 telcon
ESWC colocation means scheduling constraint problems
We should also think about F2F7+ (location - Korea?)
Choice: Europe and N. America (for F2F's)
Christian: if we have one more in US and 1 more in Europe that would be even
<PaulVincent> PaulV: not on phone: see other email about PRR
Christian: Sandro reported that
the incubator on uncertainty will start but does not know when.
Should we have a liaison?
... Ensure that RIF is synchronized with that
Sandro: the obligation is more on them to coordinate with us as necessary, than us with them
<csma> ack csma?
No more liaison reporting.
ChrisW: We accomplished a great deal
ChrisW and Christian still working on cleaning up the minutes
ChrisW: sent mail to the RIF
summing up the main points
... ... we agreed to publish that WD assuming all actions are carried out to completion satisfactorily.
<scribe> New issues will be carried to the next WD.
This does NOT mean that CORE is finalized. Only that WD1 is.
Chrisw: quickly run through
... 1st resolution : we agreed to remove the DTD from the WD1; will publish an XML schema
<csma> resolutions from F2F5 are listed in the "Current" section of http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/FrontPage
Christian: the version Sandro
circulated has some minor errors - they've been fixed.
... or they will be soon
3rd day on RIF/RAF - Axel Polleres presented his approach
ChrisW: many liked the approach
using Prolog but some found it too fine-grained
... still need a "higher" view
... last session: RDF/OWL compatibility - check out the wiki
No further questions/comments
Christian: anonymous variable issue completed? Not so sure ... need to keep track
ChrisW: We only agreed to remove Anon. Vars from WD1 not CORE
<Harold> ... the intent behind this condition language is that it will be shared among the bodies of the rules expressed in the envisioned RIF dialects LP, FO, PR, RR, and can also be used to uniformly express integrity constraints (IC) and queries.
Christian: argued on why
Action-232 still needs work
... thinks the wording is misleading
Harold: will work on a better wording
End of action review
Harold? update ...
Harold: Michael is making good
progress editing and so am I
... the new organization looks better
ChrisW: What link points there?
Harold: AS notation is immediately rendered as UML
<csma> Harold: "...among the bodies of the rules expressed in future RIF dialects. Possible dialects that have been considered so far include LP, FO, PR and RR; the condition language could also be used to unfirmly express integrity contraints and queries".
ChrisW: very nice ...
ChrisW: any other topic?
UCR - Allen?
<LeoraMorgenstern> due nexdt week
<LeoraMorgenstern> Well, thank you Christian.
ChrisW: at the F2F we decided not to publish the new version of the UCR draft
Action-267 continued (reorganize document -- mumbo jumbo)
<LeoraMorgenstern> Right -- the duplicate actions are my actions.
Action-261 and Action-236 are duplicate and continued
Action-234 (duplicate with Action-237) continued
MoZ: action to review the UCR document?
<agiurca> Review UCR agiurca
Allen: nothing to report - will do actions for next week
<agiurca> I know. thanks
ChrisW: Adrian, we reviewed your comments and used them to amend the stuff
Christian: when is the WD3 due?
ChrisW: let's discuss this next week when we do the changes
Allen: pls - I need feedback - make sure you read the good page
ChrisW: we had a nice RifRaf
session - Axel's slides focused on syntax
... seems to be a nice way to identify semantic features of languages
... e.g. OWL dialect identification - Axel's works is a promising 1st step for RIF
... but also some felt it was too fine grained
... any comments/discussion on RIFRAF?
... after looking at Axel's work, we decided to change all RIFRAF actions
Action-175 continued for Apr 7 (Allen & Leora)
Action-172 continued (Sandro)
Any more RIFRAF issues?
Any other business?
<ChrisW> MoZ are you there?
Christian: review of the WD1 for the CORE - it is very important to be careful reviewing it; think ahead of the next WD if you feel something is missing now
WD1 will be next week
<MoZ> ChrisW, yes I do
<ChrisW> sandro, you can meet tomorrow?
<MoZ> ChrisW, you were looking after me ?
<ChrisW> IgorMozetic AllenGinsberg(possibly late) MichaelKifer MichaelSintek
<csma> Moz, we were wondering if you made a review of UCR
<csma> You had an action to
<MoZ> I thought my action was for reviewing the CORE
<ChrisW> Chair: Chris Welty