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Re: RDFa and Web Directions North 2009 (html5/xhtml5 process)

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:58:07 -0600
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Michael Bolger <michael@michaelbolger.net>
Cc: public-rdfa@w3.org, RDFa mailing list <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1234537087.28267.1440.camel@pav.lan>

On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:44 +0100, Dan Brickley wrote:
> +cc: Sam Ruby, TimBL, DanC
> On 13/2/09 10:27, Michael Bolger wrote:
> > Friends of XHTML, are seeing a train wreck, the same "old" W3C
> > "hero-worshiped" "leadership" does nothing of any substance to join the
> > battle. HTML 5 has won by default.
> >
> > Who, Where? is the top representative from the W3C in the html5/xhtml5
> > process.

Do you mean me, Michael? Your first message in this thread mentions
a number of W3C staff, so I suppose by "W3C" you mean "the W3C staff";
Mike Smith and I are the representatives from the W3C staff
in the WG on html5/xhtml5.

I usually take "W3C" to be the membership and the community along
with the staff, and it works best as a meritocracy, where the
"top" people are those doing the most/best work. I tend to think
of the engineers from Opera, Apple, Adobe, Mozilla, Microsoft,
and Google doing lots of important work, not to mention one-man-show
designers like Dave Shea who really blow me away. And I'm really
jazzed by the whole free culture movement: Wikipedia,
Creative Commons, ...

But if you mean me, I'm curious: which direction do you think
the html5/xhtml5 situation should be led?

FWIW, I presented at Web Directions North 2009 as well, including
bits and pieces on HTML, XHTML, RDFa, and such; you're
welcome to look at the slides...

It's also possible you mean Tim Berners-Lee when you talk about
a top representative from W3C; if you're looking for someone to
wield executive power from the top, I suggest you don't look
to Tim; that's really not his style. Mostly he likes to get his
point across by writing and sharing code, but he's often
called on to give talks; in those cases, he tends to cheer on
his peers that continue to build the Web. He gave a talk on html and xml
at the W3C Tech Plenary last October; you're welcome to look
at that too...
  Cleaning up the Web

Another somewhat central body in W3C is the Technical Architecture
Group; we spent the better part of 3 days solid studying
the html5/xhtml5 landscape last September; the minutes aren't
very polished, but you're welcome to look at them too...

Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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