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RE: Primer update

From: Tom Adamich <vls@tusco.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:19:07 -0400
To: "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: "'W3C RDFWA WG'" <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>, "'Manu Sporny'" <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, <patty.perkins@wellsfargo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01cbf771$1c01b470$54051d50$@net>
Thanks, Ivan, for your comments and efforts.  I understand your rationale
and support whatever direction the final version of the RDFa Primer takes.
I must admit I was challenged by trying to determine how "general" or
"specific" the text had to be.  From both your comments and Manu's comments,
it appears that the text is not necessarily intended to serve a general
audience but to assist HTML authors in creating and managing RDFa triples in
a WWW environment (as well as having an in-depth understanding of basic
semantic code protocols and structures prior to use of RDFa).

Let me know if I can be of any additional assistance.

Thanks again; take care.

Tom

Tom Adamich, MLS
President
Visiting Librarian Service
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New Philadelphia, OH 44663
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:43 AM
To: vls@tusco.net
Cc: 'W3C RDFWA WG'; 'Manu Sporny'; patty.perkins@wellsfargo.com
Subject: Re: Primer update

Tom,

to be very honest with you, I am not convinced about that change. Yes, it
makes the text more crisp, and it would certainly be more appropriate for a
specification, but this is a primer which can live with a different style
(b.t.w., I am not defending my own text here, I took this over from Mark and
Ben...).

Any other opinions? 

Ivan

On Apr 6, 2011, at 14:35 , Tom Adamich wrote:

> Hi, Ivan:
> 
> ...Hope you're feeling better.  My only recommendation is to restructure
> your introduction using bullet points for some of the excellent content
you
> have:
> 
> Example:
> 
> RDFa enables machine readable "tags" to be included with electronic or
"born
> digital' materials (text, images, video, etc.) that are marked up using a
> variety of webpage markup languages.  These "tags" may include such
> information as:
> 
> 1.	 who created a particular material
> 2.	 important descriptive and/or technical information pertaining to
> the material
> 3.	 intellectual property rights associated with the material's use
> 4.	 information on finding related materials which may be of interest
> and/or use (ex. Links to the creator's social networking page, where other
> examples of her/his work might be accessible.)
> 
> Instead of: 
> 
> What if the browser, or any machine consumer such as a Web crawler,
received
> information on the meaning of a web page's visual elements? A dinner party
> announced on a blog could be easily copied to the user's calendar, an
> author's complete contact information to the user's address book. Users
> could automatically recall previously browsed articles according to
> categorization labels (i.e., tags). A photo copied and pasted from a web
> site to a school report would carry with it a link back to the
photographer,
> giving her proper credit. A link shared by a user to his social network
> contacts would automatically carry additional data pulled from the
original
> web page: a thumbnail, an author, and a specific title. When web data
meant
> for humans is augmented with hints meant for computer programs, these
> programs become significantly more helpful, because they begin to
understand
> the data's structure. 
> 
> RDFa allows HTML authors to do just that. Using a few simple HTML
> attributes, authors can mark up human-readable data with machine-readable
> indicators for browsers and other programs to interpret. A web page can
> include markup for items as simple as the title of an article, or as
complex
> as a user's complete social network. 
> 
> I think the examples are very clear and concise.  ...Hope this helps and
> doesn't create too much of an editing issue.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> Tom Adamich, MLS
> President
> Visiting Librarian Service
> P.O. Box 932 
> New Philadelphia, OH 44663
> 330-364-4410
> vls@tusco.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-rdfa-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-rdfa-wg-request@w3.org]
> On Behalf Of Ivan Herman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:19 AM
> To: W3C RDFWA WG
> Subject: Primer update
> 
> Unfortunately, I got sick (probably brought bac a travellers' bug from
> India...) so I forgot to send out this mail... I have made yet another
> update of the RDFa Primer:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-primer/
> 
> taking over the examples that were in the previous version of the RDFa API
> (and have slightly modified them here and there).
> 
> Again, I would like to get this published as a FPWD soon, to put a stake
in
> the ground (we are very late with that one), which requires that some of
you
> have a look at the text to see if it is good enough...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ivan
> 
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