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Re: Redefining “resource”

From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:19:01 +0100
Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, RDF-WG Group <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <8FE69287-2F0E-4966-9163-22136448E5D0@cyganiak.de>
To: nathan@webr3.org
On 25 May 2012, at 17:09, Nathan wrote:
>>> Roughly, there is the set of everything named with an IRI, Set-A ("resources")
>>> then Set-B, a proper subset of Set-A, the set of all things which can be interacted with via one of the stack of network/internet protocols, including http/ftp/tor/spdy
>>> then Set-C, another proper subset of Set-A which comprises of everything else, Set-A subtract Set-B, which includes my shoes and your left ear.
>> You're contradicting yourself.
>> If it has an HTTP URI, then I can, *by definition*, interact with it through the internet stack.
>> Now, RDF insists that an HTTP URI can denote anything, including your shoes and my left ear.
>> Ergo, *everything* is in Set-B, and Set-C is empty. Shoes and ears are in Set-B.
> 
> False, I said "all things which can be interacted with via one of the stack of network/internet protocols". I did not say "named with an HTTP URI".

So an HTTP URI that returns 303 and identifies your shoes. Is that in set B or in set C?

Thanks,
Richard



> 
> Only some things in the universe can be interacted with via an internet/network protocol, not all things, thus subset, and thus set's B and C exist.
> 
> Also worth noting that naming something with an HTTP URI does not mean that you can interact with it through the internet stack, or through HTTP.
> 
>>> Personally though, I still think that Pat's suggestion of using the term "RDF Source(s)" where necessary could be used to skirt around all of this nicely, using a clear non overloaded term.
>> So, the things that REST calls resources, we should call “sources”. And everything else, we should call “resources”. That's a bit backwards.
>> Best,
>> Richard
> 
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