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Re: Deprecate most "native" RDF serializations

From: Gavin Carothers <gavin@carothers.name>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 19:50:43 -0700
Message-ID: <CAPqY83zTrPPycdLG9qAQG+gTf3R1QaJSP5t21WStHJmR1=3Q6g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-rdf-wg@w3.org
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 11:22 -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> """
>> TURTLE Lite would effectively be a subset of TURTLE - N-Quads, or
>> something that would be N-Quads-like (allowing for either "s p o" or
>> "s
>> p o c" statements).
>> """
>> Gavin has asserted that TURTLE already supports N-Triples... now all
>> we
>> need to do is to make N-Quads a subset of TURTLE and we're good for
>> TURTLE Lite.
> Since a subset can't include things not in its superset, I guess you're
> saying that Turtle should include the dataset/quad stuff?  Do you have a
> proposed syntax for that?   I don't think adding the label after the
> triple, as in N-Quads, works well in Turtle...
>  s p o1 g, o2 g; p2 o3 g.
> Nah.   Maybe just like trig, where you have a triple you could have
> label + { graph }.   Or maybe a GRAPH keyword like in SPARQL.  I kind of
> like that.

Yes, had proposed adding @graph to Turtle. There wasn't support for
doing so. Too much of a change to the language.

> Steve has argued very strongly, and Andy just mentioned again, that
> people want to know from the mime type whether they'll be getting
> triples or quads.   Steve sees it as a big security issue -- you don't
> want to load quads in from the Web and have them over-write your
> crawler's internal state metadata or data that was supposedly fetched
> from other address. I'm not convinced, myself, not at all, because I
> think one needs to have an "untrusted" mode of loading quads that
> renames all the graphs.
>    -- Sandro
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