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Re: [ALL] agenda 7 March telecon

From: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:49 +0000
Message-ID: <4F573FA5.3030900@epimorphics.com>
To: public-rdf-wg@w3.org


On 07/03/12 03:40, Sandro Hawke wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 17:38 +0100, Guus Schreiber wrote:
>> See
>>
>>     http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.03.07
>
> I wonder if there's any more we can do to get Turtle to Last Call as
> soon as possible.   (like addressing Henry's comment about dots in
> names).  And anything else (like .genid) that's pretty much done.

+1 : good point.

Maybe next-steps could be:

1/ Editors happy with the state of the doc for WG review
2/ WG review (I offer to review)
3/ Publish!

I'm happy to review either now, before editorial completion, or later 
when it's close to LC form, which ever helps the editors most.

== Tests

Test work can be in parallel to the doc; it would be good to have the 
tests ready around LC; I know they are already being used.

They need review coverage.  There needs to be additions for escape 
coverage and for plain literal/xsd:string at least.

Some test aren't passable by a parser that checks IRIs.  e.g. test-29.

The test are going to be important for Turtle.


W3C have a specific license for tests:
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2008/04-testsuite-license

which includes:
"""No right to create modifications or derivatives of W3C documents is 
granted pursuant to this license."""
i.e. you can't change the tests and claim compliance!

== A quick skim of the doc

There are various issues marked in the document. Some look out-of-date 
and all must go for LC.

Scanning the doc I see:

ISSUE-4: Do we depecate N-Triples and use Turtle instead?
(no!)

ISSUE-12:
This is closed

ISSUE-67: \xxxx escaping in prefixed names
Can we close this?  It's now "just" editing.

"Decide the name for N′ (N-Triples)"

Naming:
Namespace: http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtle
Local name: turtle

(so that makes http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtleturtle -- looks wrong 
to me!)

>
> The Graphs discussion only endangers the group if we let it outside of
> its joyful little box.
>
>        -- Sandro

This comment (to SPARQL-WG but it relates) is about Turtle:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Feb/0103.html

It would be helpful to SPARQL-WG to decide this, ideally with no change.

	Andy
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