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Re: proposals for Lists and Seq (ISSUE-77)

From: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:01:57 +0200
Message-ID: <4EA029D5.4090604@emse.fr>
To: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
FWIW, I would like something along the line of SPARQL 1.1 entailment 
regime (which excludes the rdf:_N that are not used in the dataset).

Le 20/10/2011 15:41, Ivan Herman a écrit :
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> On Oct 20, 2011, at 14:44 , Steve Harris wrote:
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>> Probably. The infinite entailments thing is very crazy, but the rdfs:member property is reasonably useful.
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>> I would be more in favour of making it less crazy e.g. limiting the instances of rdfs:member to rdfs:_N properties that actually exist in the graph.
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> Ack. That is the ter Horst semantics that a number of triple stores already implement, or the corresponding RDFS entailment version that is defined for SPARQL 1.1. Getting one of those into the RDF Semantics is, essentially, ISSUE-11, that I raised a long time ago...[1].
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> Ivan
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/11
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>> - Steve
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>> On 2011-10-20, at 13:28, Ivan Herman wrote:
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>>> Steve, Dan
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>>> Would you be ready to at least remove them from the core RDFS semanitcs, ie, the entailments?
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>>> Ivan
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>>> On 20 Oct 2011, at 13:21, Dan Brickley<danbri@danbri.org>  wrote:
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>>>> On 20 October 2011 13:13, Steve Harris<steve.harris@garlik.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I wouldn't be comfortable with marking Seq as "archaic" or similar unless there's a viable alternative, and I don't think List counts.
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>>>> Me neither.  Nor "quaint", "twee", "retro" or "regrettable". It's just
>>>> what it is, with no great mystery or confusion.
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>>>> Dan
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