Re: question about the term "scope"

Dear James

Based on your feedback the WG decided to explore new names for the terms
scope / in-scope

This issue is is tracked here:
https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/track/issues/175
and we created some new proposals for voting here:
https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Proposals#ISSUE-175:_rename_scope

you are again welcome to suggest your terms

Best,
Dimitris



On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas <
kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:

> Hello James and thank you for your feedback,
>
> The WG will provide a formal reply to your comments after it is discussed
> in one of the following weekly telcos.
> As an informal comment & based on the definitions of the current draft
>
>  the term itself is intended to characterize a triple
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> The term in-scope is not intended to characterize a triple but a node
> "the scope of a shape defines which (RDF) nodes in the data graph are
> in-scope for that shape" so it is a relation between a Shape and Set of
> nodes and define which RDF nodes the shape can "see"
> http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-scope
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> why do you not use a term which better connotes that that meaning
>
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> We did try in the past to come up with a better terms for scoping,
> filtering & focus nodes without success, I am sure the WG will consider any
> new suggestions
>
> Best regards,
> Dimitris
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:12 AM, james anderson <james@dydra.com> wrote:
>
>> good morning;
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>> the term “in-scope” appears frequently in the current draft[1] where its
>> definition and usage run contrary to the meaning which is customarily
>> associated with the word[2].
>> if your intent is to produce a document which is accessible and readily
>> understood, if the term itself is intended to characterize a triple, rather
>> than the relation between a name and lexical entity, and its usage involves
>> computing the subset of a graph, why do you not use a term which better
>> connotes that that meaning?
>>
>> best regards, from berlin,
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>> [1] : http://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160530/
>> [2] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_(computer_science)
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