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Re: RDFa RFE: No Mandated DOCTYPE

From: Simone Onofri <simone.onofri@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:44:48 +0100
Message-ID: <52bd7c3d0712030144r156feb9dsaa86454bc810bc7f@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>, "Fabien Gandon" <Fabien.Gandon@sophia.inria.fr>, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, bnowack@semsol.com, dave@dajobe.org
Cc: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@miscoranda.com>, public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
I hope using xmlns and DTD can cover all questions about it.

And so, can be fine if Validator also supports validation for xmlns is
the best. But I hope to give the question also to who have implemented
RDFa extractors to have also the point of view also another point of
view. I've added Fabien, Ivan, Bengee, Dave (any others)?

The @profile is the solution we've used for GRDDL and it works fine.

Cheers,

Simone

> Le 30 nov. 2007 à 21:54, Sean B. Palmer a écrit :
> > On Nov 26, 2007 2:43 AM, Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> >> would the following be a solution for you?
> >>
> >> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
> >>       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
> >>       version="xhtml11 rdfa svg">
> >
> > In what specification would the interpretation of the @version values
> > be given? Would they be extensible by users other than the W3C? I'm
> > not sure they'd need to be extensible, admittedly.
>
> There are troubles with different type of mechanisms.
>
> * known values
>    - Dominant players may impose its values
>    - Strong Communities will impose a set of values on small communities
>    - Sometimes the known values are not known to you, how do you find
> the doc
> * URI system
>    - burdensome for authors without an authoring tool
>    - Weakness because of Cache Implementations (Single Point of Failure)
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> > It's been suggested to me that you meant for @version to be a hook for
> > namespace GRDDL to dispatch off of; is that something that you thought
> > about?
>
> An identifier more than a namespace. A flag which says: "Hey watch
> out, here there might be RDFa"
>
> > This *would* solve the RDFa discovery problem for me, but I'm not sure
> > how well it would work as a discovery mechanism in general, especially
> > given the extensibility question and so on. From what Mark and Shane
> > have said, it sounds like they're only considering @profile at the
> > moment.
>
> It doesn't solve the extensibility question indeed.
>
> > See also http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#standardizedFieldValues-51
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> At a personal level, I'm for URIs, though I would prefer a mechanism
> ala CSS, where I can declare all my namespaces in *one specific file*
> on my site, and be able to link this file from all my documents.
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> GRDDL suggests the use of profile.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#grddl-xhtml
>
>    <head profile="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view">
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> but there are two issues for me,
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> * the file which is delivered at
>    http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view
>    is a document I have to read, there's no predefined format that I
> could automatically grabbed.
> * You have to be able to edit head, which is impossible in many
> scenarios. Being able to point to another file locally would be cool.
> ala CSS  link rel="stylesheet" | style element | style attribute.
> gives a great flexibility.
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> Karl Dubost - W3C
> http://www.w3.org/QA/
> Be Strict To Be Cool
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