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Re: Embedded RDF

From: Ben Adida <ben@mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:08:35 -0400
Message-Id: <8FEFC42E-B8B8-4144-9FE0-C3C3A148BAB6@mit.edu>
Cc: public-rdf-in-xhtml task force <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
To: Ian Davis <iand@internetalchemy.org>


Yes, it's a good idea to discuss these RDF-embedding ideas with the  
rdf-in-xhtml task force, though I'm certainly *not* offended that you  
didn't come to us first. Let's chat now.

My first question is: what do you think of RDF/A? You've arrived at  
some similar syntax on your own, so clearly there's some similarity  
in goals and approach. Moreover, RDF/A supports more RDF concepts  
than embedded-RDF (bnodes, XML literal values, and maybe even  
reification). If you're positioning eRDF as a transition solution,  
accessible via GRDDL, it would be fantastic to make it look *more*  
like RDF/A. I'm thinking specifically about standard XML namespace  
prefix declaration and notation.

Note that we will soon have an up-to-date draft of the RDF/A  
specification. Watch this list for it.


On Oct 19, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Ian Davis wrote:

> I'm sure many of you have seen my message about Embedded RDF[1] but  
> it was pointed out to me that it would have been courteous to run  
> my ideas past this group.
> Hopefully I haven't offended anyone here. The omission wasn't  
> deliberate but happened primarily because up until very recently I  
> wasn't sure that my ideas would even work and even if they did it  
> would be incapable of expressing a substantial part of the RDF model.
> I'd like to encourage interested members to take a look at the  
> documentation around:
> http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml
> And the example documents:
> http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/foaf-in-html.html
> http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/doap-in-html.html
> There is an extraction service here:
> http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/extract
> I'm wondering whether embedded RDF can be used as a stepping stone  
> to a more expressive method once the new syntax required is in place.
> Cheers,
> Ian
> [1] http://www.w3.org/mid/435603FC.70406@internetalchemy.org
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