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Minutes of the 2004-11-30 DAWG teleconference

From: Janne Saarela <janne.saarela@profium.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:41:30 +0200
Message-ID: <41AEB91A.3020506@profium.com>
To: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org

RDF Data Access Working Group
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/
Tuesday 2004-11-30 14:30-16:30 UTC
log: http://www.w3.org/2004/11/30-dawg-irc

Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0379.html

chair: AndyS
scribe: JanneS

1. Convene, take roll, review agenda

Attending:
     Kendall Clark
     Andy Seaborne
     Hiroyuki Sato
     Howard Katz
     Simon Raboczi
     Tom Adams
     Janne Saarela
     Jos De Roo
     Kevin Wilkinson
     Farrukh Najmi
     Pat Hayes (on IRC for a while)

Regrets:
     Dan Connolly
     Eric Prud'hommeaux
     Yoshio Fukushige
     Dave Beckett
     Alberto Reggiori
     Steve Harris


Next meeting: 7-Dec-2004 14:30-16:30 UTC

PROPOSED to accept as a true record of the last meeting:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0351.html
ACCEPTED without opposition

Continued without discussion:

ACTION DanC: owner of issue 'yes or no questions' (pending protocol doc)
ACTION AlbertoR: owns issue 'DESCRIBE'
ACTION EricP: find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March
   28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days).  Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week.
ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue
ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'


2. FTF 4

People who have not indicated whether they will be attending should
register, even if it is to say they will not be there.

JanneS said he might not be able to provide wlan access
in the meeting premises but a regular ethernet/rj45 access
would be provided. JanneS will check via mailing list if
this causes any of the attendees any trouble.

3. Test Cases

DanC proposed a set of test cases to be accepted in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0370.html

ACCEPTED simple test cases (1-4) with the correction of 
foaf:knowns=>foaf:knows
Abstained: Kendall (has not read them)

Discussion about result set formats.

ACTION Jos: Write email about alternative result format using
collections - avoid use/mention issues

ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to
generate input/output RDF/XML and typed nodes into manifest file
CONTINUED


4. Protocol

Protocol draft:
   [protocol] http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol/
              http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol-simplex/

ACTION KendallC: expose our walking tour data to SPARQL querying clients
   ETA before F2F4
CONTINUED


5. SPARQL SOURCE Issue

Comments from TimBL:
 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Nov/0020.html

Proposed response:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0360.html
and a language proposal:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0373.html

Discussion about untrusted vs. trusted graphs (unnamed vs. named graphs)

ACTION TomA: write email to list about how their customers are using 
named graphs

ACTION DaveB: update the dawg test repository to record or amend
tests to correspond to the
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html
CONTINUED

ACTION JanneS: review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0256.html
and check what happens when no source support is implemented

this action reworded to say
ACTION JanneS: propose text for hard failure in the protocol draft

ACTION DanC: suggest formal definitions for SOURCE
CONTINUED


6. SPARQL update, issues

See http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/
next WD: December 2004

Kendall proceeding with the simplex protocol version, will make an 
update later this week. The update will include e.g. change of fixed 
parameter names (q, g).

ACTION: PatH to review editors working draft of rq23
CONTINUED

ACTION: KevinW to review editors working draft of rq23
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0384.html
DONE

Yoshio's comments
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0380.html
DONE


7. Other issues

Discussion about the comment in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Nov/0021.html


Adjourned 15:32 UTC

-- 
Janne Saarela <janne.saarela at profium.com>
Profium, Lars Sonckin kaari 12, 02600 Espoo, Finland
Internet: http://www.profium.com
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