Re: RDB2RDF Implementation Report

Richard,

I did the only thing I could do: act as a go-between:-) Hopefully some of your remarks will be taken into account. I hope to be able to follow up...

Cheers

Ivan

On Jun 22, 2012, at 17:42 , Richard Cyganiak wrote:

> On 22 Jun 2012, at 15:40, Ivan Herman wrote:
>> As you can easily imagine, the issue is manpower. We, in the W3C team, simply have no manpower available to actively maintain the RDF validator.
> 
> Put a big badge on it saying, “SEEKING CONTRIBUTORS/SPONSORS”.
> 
>> The validator has been updated since 2006, actually (it now uses the latest version of Jena as a response to some security issue);
> 
> Ok, good.
> 
>> but nobody really maintains the code itself. Instead, the validator code has been put onto github:
>> 
>> https://github.com/w3c/rdfvalidator-ng
>> 
>> meaning that anybody can download and use the validator locally
> 
> That's great, actually.
> 
> This should really be mentioned here:
> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/documentation
> 
> That page points people in wrong directions and makes the whole project look a lot worse than it actually is.
> 
> Sticking the documentation page into the GitHub repository would be a good step towards that.
> 
>> and, *of course*, we would love and would incorporate patches to be deployed at the W3C site.
> 
> I fear that the specific issue mentioned by Kingsley is an issue with W3C's networking, and not a bug in the code. See my report here:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html
> 
> Best,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
>> But, I am afraid, that is where we are today...
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 16:13 , Richard Cyganiak wrote:
>> 
>>> Ivan,
>>> 
>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:39, Ivan Herman wrote:
>>>> www-rdf-validator@w3.org
>>>> 
>>>> The page gives a problem report form... 
>>> 
>>> The last time someone from W3C has responded to something reported on this address was in 2009.
>>> 
>>> The last time the validator code has been touched was apparently in 2006.
>>> 
>>> People report the same problems with the validator over and over again, to the sound of crickets chirping. A few sightings of the very problem that Kingsley just mentioned:
>>> 
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0000.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2011Feb/0000.html
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ivan
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 15:23 , Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who deals with issues such as:
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc..
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good question. I was unable [1] to figure who's responsible for this space but hope Ivan can help us?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ns/,tools
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:12, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/22/12 8:58 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for fixing the table. As an aside: I think it would be fair to change the order of editorship - you're the main person and have done the majority of the work, I'm just helping out ;)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who deals with issues such as:
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kingsley
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 13:55, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1].
>>>>>>>>> That's awesome, thanks a million! Just a minor thing: can you please fix the 'Home' column of  Table 1 and Table 2 so that they point to the right impl as per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations …?
>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following
>>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm 					ok
>>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml	ok
>>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm 		ok
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you already generate the impl vs. TC Table 3. out of the EARL reports?
>>>>>>>> Not yet ….
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 11:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1].
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following
>>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm 					ok
>>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml	ok
>>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm 		ok
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done.
>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent, thanks! Can you please prioritise the first two things (draft IR and EARL reports validity) so that we have this maybe a bit earlier, and then focus on the Morph EARL report?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, all
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In today's telecon we have discussed the next steps towards PR. One essential document is the Implementation Report. Can you please, based on the table [1], check if we can use the provided EARL reports to generate the HTML table which would have the implementations as column headings and the TC as row headings - see for example [2] how this could look like (where you can ignore everything else besides section 3. for now). Independent of if the EARL reports are useable, can I please ask you to draft the IR at [3] (you can simply reuse the content from [2] and remove non-relevant bits)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By this Friday 22 June we should report back to the WG re our progress (and expect the three remaining EARL reports from yourself, Richard and Eric to be integrated).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> - draft IR at [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>> - check the EARL reports
>>>>>>>>>>>> - try to have a first version of morph EARL report
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracker, this completes my ACTION-206.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations#PR_transition_-_Implementation_Report
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kingsley Idehen	
>>>>>> Founder & CEO
>>>>>> OpenLink Software
>>>>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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